Boris Johnson to hold press conference at 4pm

[macbeth]

Crikey ... know of a fair number of people including some of my own family that ignore the rules. They say they are being careful but frankly it's bollox

.. and please tell me where these countries are that are virtually back to normal?

yeah, people break the rules and that's up to them, my point is that for me, who's largely followed the rules pretty closely, to feel like we still haven't moved forward is incredibly deflating

 

[Randy McNob]

I blame the anti lockdown blowhards in the media, the Murdoch footsoliders who spread resentment and misinformation telling everyone business is more important than human lives

 

[macbeth]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-55372491

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news...-europes-christmas-coronavirus-rules-12162445

So what countries are “virtually back to normal” that aren’t islands or have less than 15 million population?

well yes, europe as a whole is generally in the s*** right now. It's just inexcusable that the government here has been indecisive as it has, imo. And totally dejecting.

 

[rogersix]

Did you and your crystal ball foresee this new variant which is now causing the extra limitations being put in place ?

They have known about it since Sept, that is not hindsight - that's poor planning.

i stand corrected, even earlier. so why was bungle goading starmer in pmq's on wednesday about cancelling xmas?

 

[Fungus]

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What's wrong with that?

There's only two of us and we always buy a massive turkey. After a few days, we strip the carcass and freeze the meat in two-portion bags, ready for a quick curry any time during the next year. Simple, cheap and sensible in any scenario.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

i stand corrected, even earlier. so why was bungle goading starmer in pmq's on wednesday about cancelling xmas?

I also include Sage in that cluster**** for the new mutation slowness.

 

[Notters]

What's wrong with that?

There's only two of us and we always buy a massive turkey. After a few days, we strip the carcass and freeze the meat in two-portion bags, ready for a quick curry any time during the next year. Simple, cheap and sensible in any scenario.

We've bought turkey, pork, beef, gammon, bacon, pies, sausage meat, etc. Bit much for 2 adults dontcha think?

 

[GT49er]

I think that two households are not supposed to meet indoors currently in tier 2 . The support " Bubble" is meant to contain only one person rather than 2 so I think that is dodgy too.

I believe overnight stays are, at best, heavily discouraged - is that not the case?

 

[A mex eyecan]

We've bought turkey, pork, beef, gammon, bacon, pies, sausage meat, etc. Bit much for 2 adults dontcha think?

ruddy hell Notters, how many were you having round, the 5000

 

[johanngull]

the new variant was picked up in november, you don't need a crystal ball, just a basic grasp of science, and an average attention span

"researchers have catalogued more than 12,000 mutations in SARS-CoV-2 genomes. But scientists can spot mutations faster than they can make sense of them. Many mutations will have no consequence for the virus’s ability to spread or cause disease, because they do not alter the shape of a protein, whereas those mutations that do change proteins are more likely to harm the virus than improve it"

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02544-6

 

[Bodian]

the new variant was picked up in november, you don't need a crystal ball, just a basic grasp of science, and an average attention span

Think they said 'September' in that press conference?

 

[Fungus]

We've bought turkey, pork, beef, gammon, bacon, pies, sausage meat, etc. Bit much for 2 adults dontcha think?

(Smug alert) Ah, we also bought a second freezer, back in April.

Some of that can be frozen, or cooked then frozen, surely?

 

[Weststander]

Drakeford and Sturgeon this evening also making very late restrictions changes.

Full lockdown in Wales from midnight tonight.

Parking party politics for one moment, all governments must be acting on the new science.

 

[ozzygull]

I have just had my 90 year old mum in tears as I had to explain the news that we are in tier 4 now, so she will be on her own. I work from home and self isolated for the past 3 weeks to make sure there was almost zero chance to passing anything on. ducking pissed off with news

 

[Notters]

ruddy hell Notters, how many were you having round, the 5000

6 people for five days

 

[rogersix]

"researchers have catalogued more than 12,000 mutations in SARS-CoV-2 genomes. But scientists can spot mutations faster than they can make sense of them. Many mutations will have no consequence for the virus’s ability to spread or cause disease, because they do not alter the shape of a protein, whereas those mutations that do change proteins are more likely to harm the virus than improve it"

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02544-6

fair does, so when did the pointy heads know that the new mutation would raise the r number by 0.4?

 

[A mex eyecan]

I have just had my 90 year old mum in tears as I had to explain the news that we are in tier 4 now, so she will be on her own. I work from home and self isolated for the past 3 weeks to make sure there was almost zero chance to passing anything on. ducking pissed off with news

bloody sad mate, what a shit, shit year

 

[A mex eyecan]

6 people for five days

a veritable banquet indeed

 

[BBassic]

Absolutely boils my piss that the same day Christmas is f**ked for millions of people a bunch of other people are participating in anti-lockdown marches.

I consider myself a liberal lefty snowflake but they should lock them lot of 'em up in a big old room and pump the disease in through the air vents. Wankers.

 

[Notters]

(Smug alert) Ah, we also bought a second freezer, back in April.

Some of that can be frozen, or cooked then frozen, surely?

The freezers pretty chokka too tbh. I don't really care about this shit. Its the year we've had with a new baby and a four year old with no support and no sleep, whilst I'm working 50 hours a week. Can't handle it much longer.