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somerset

New member
Jul 14, 2003
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Yatton, North Somerset
The truth? You must be pretty gullible if you believe him. Africans are using charity money to buy Ferraris? Don't be so stupid!
Listen you silly boy,..... instead of posturing and knocking people down, just go and read a bit of background on this subject. Overseas aid to many 'developing' nations is stolen by officials and politicians in the tens of millions within almost every recipient country you care to name. Google it will you, many donor nations have stopped their donations across the board to some recipients,... read this please, it talks in general, but cites the example of Uganda.

http://www.consultancyafrica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1204:foreign-aid-and-corruption-their-relationship-and-the-ugandan-governments-quandary-part-1-&catid=60:conflict-terrorism-discussion-papers&Itemid=265

Of course this Ukip idiot was just that, an idiot in the style of his comments, but the message is valid, and supportable through dozens and dozens of online articles.
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,188
The arse end of Hangleton
Did Sked encourage thus buffoon to be racist, mysogynistic, homophobic and stupid?

No, and nor has Farage.

I have no 'love affair' with Sked, but you seem scared of what he says, as do other UKIP supporters, which is why i quote him....

Not scared at all - it's been a long time since he was involved in UKIP and UKIP has been far more successful without him than with him. Sked is a has been, the past - he failed.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,188
The arse end of Hangleton
The truth? You must be pretty gullible if you believe him. Africans are using charity money to buy Ferraris? Don't be so stupid!

OK, change the word Ferrari's to arms - any better ?
 


somerset

New member
Jul 14, 2003
6,600
Yatton, North Somerset
OK, change the word Ferrari's to arms - any better ?
Not entirely...... the trappings of wealth are very attractive to these corrupt officials and politicians,..... check out the up market bars, shops, restaurants, hotels and estate agents in London,.... they will give you a few clues to who is buying what. My cousin used to own the beauty salon franchise in Harrods, he knows who the baulk of his customers were.
 


daveinprague

New member
Oct 1, 2009
12,572
Prague, Czech Republic
No, and nor has Farage.



Not scared at all - it's been a long time since he was involved in UKIP and UKIP has been far more successful without him than with him. Sked is a has been, the past - he failed.


Bloom is an example of not being a has-been, and not a failure?

A racist
A mysogynist
A homophobe
An idiot
?

Like I said, I hope UKIP keep him, along with the other idiots that make fools of themselves regularly.
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,188
The arse end of Hangleton
Bloom is an example of not being a has-been, and not a failure?

A racist
A mysogynist
A homophobe
An idiot
?

Like I said, I hope UKIP keep him, along with the other idiots that make fools of themselves regularly.

I've not disagreed with you at all on Bloom. It's you're insistence on always believing Sked that I find strange. It was also YOU that brought results into the debate yet the results don't back up your argument.
 


daveinprague

New member
Oct 1, 2009
12,572
Prague, Czech Republic
My insistance on believing Sked?

Did Farage sue him over it? I dont believe ive seen anything, but maybe you could correct me on that?

As for results.....great...UKIP have some MEP's, who from what ive read, are particularly useless...how many people just on NSC voted in the European Parliament elections?..Its not like there was a particular high voting turnout, and never has been. They have some councillers...terrific...
Will they ever form a government...nah...but we both know that I think.. they are a protest group, and nothing more, and will disappear.

Its also pretty ironic that he is complaining about wasting public money, whilst having a 2k pm PART TIME 'environment advisor' who doesnt hold a single scientific qualification.
Its not just Bloom either...racists seem to appear out of UKIP with alarming regularity. Whilst I believe you want the best for the country, I dont believe you would really want people like these representing you.

Anyway, im off to a concert. Take care.
 
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They have some councillers...terrific...
Will they ever form a government...nah...but we both know that I think.. they are a protest group, and nothing more, and will disappear.
The question is ... how many Tory MPs will they take down as UKIP's share of the poll increases?

Locally, it's worth looking at UKIP's vote in Hastings at the recent East Sussex County Council elections. They managed to contrive an almost complete sweep to victory by Labour (who won in seven out of the eight wards), with the Tories only winning one seat). UKIP came second in five wards.
 


BHAZiggy

Pedant
Jan 12, 2011
520
Hastings
Listen you silly boy,

Boy? I wish! I'm not naive enough to believe that there's no corruption. Of course there is. But his implications that it is all going that way is extremely unhelpful and insulting to those who are making a difference. His blatant racism is appalling too.
 
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BHAZiggy

Pedant
Jan 12, 2011
520
Hastings
OK, change the word Ferrari's to arms - any better ?

Is that how it works then? We change the words to suit ourselves? He didn't say "arms" he said "Ferraris". If he'd said "arms", I'm pretty sure that my response would have been different too.
 




somerset

New member
Jul 14, 2003
6,600
Yatton, North Somerset
Is that how it works then? We change the words to suit ourselves? He didn't say "arms" he said "Ferraris". If he'd said "arms", I'm pretty sure that my response would have been different too.
Its arms AND sports cars mate,.... matter of record, just google it, not too difficult.
 


Boy? I wish! I'm not naive enough to believe that there's no corruption. Of course there is. But his implications that it is all going that way is extremely unhelpful and insulting to those who are making a difference. His blatant racism is appalling too.
I've already mentioned the fact that my daughter works in the world of international aid. She has worked in Kenya, Rwanda, the Democratic Republic of Congo, and Liberia. And she's now working on disaster-related projects, mainly in Asia. All of the organisations she's worked for are UK-based specialists in delivering front-line medical services. There are incredibly tight controls on the funding that her employers get to ensure that the money gets spent as intended. But it can't be denied that crooks and villains, as well as genuine aid workers, are attracted to situations where disasters, crises and displaced refugees are the reasons for intervention. And it's difficult to police some of those situations where foreign armies and casual mercenaries are wandering around the streets with weaponry to enforce their own "development" programmes.

But the answer isn't to pull the funding that goes, for example, to the Red Cross, as this prat from UKIP seems to be demanding.
 


Mellor 3 Ward 4

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2004
9,875
saaf of the water
Is the bloke from UKIP a fool, and has he used stupid language?

Yes.

Does the UK need to revisit its policy of overseas aid to certain Countries?

Yes.
 






Leekbrookgull

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2005
16,278
Leek
I've already mentioned the fact that my daughter works in the world of international aid. She has worked in Kenya, Rwanda, the Democratic Republic of Congo, and Liberia. And she's now working on disaster-related projects, mainly in Asia. All of the organisations she's worked for are UK-based specialists in delivering front-line medical services. There are incredibly tight controls on the funding that her employers get to ensure that the money gets spent as intended. But it can't be denied that crooks and villains, as well as genuine aid workers, are attracted to situations where disasters, crises and displaced refugees are the reasons for intervention. And it's difficult to police some of those situations where foreign armies and casual mercenaries are wandering around the streets with weaponry to enforce their own "development" programmes.

But the answer isn't to pull the funding that goes, for example, to the Red Cross, as this prat from UKIP seems to be demanding.

Lord/B SPOT-On. I DO NOT WANT MY GOVERNMENT GIVING MY MONEY AWAY,I will give to a charity one's like u say C/aid,Save the children etc where almost of what i give goes to the 'Front line' and not into some bank account.
 








BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
17,216
Lord/B SPOT-On. I DO NOT WANT MY GOVERNMENT GIVING MY MONEY AWAY,I will give to a charity one's like u say C/aid,Save the children etc where almost of what i give goes to the 'Front line' and not into some bank account.

If said charities can manage to get the money to where it is supposed to go it makes wonder why governments can't. Where there is a will there is a way........no will no way.
 




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