Bongo Bongo land

[Diego Napier]

Of course it was, how silly of me.

Don't worry, it's become expected of you.

 

[Seagull on the wing]

Must admit my favourite word to describe racists is racist but that might just be me...

Is he a racist.....or truthfully saying that the aid we send abroad is being misused...remember when the self righteous were in an uproar over Enoch Powell...but now a lot of people are saying he was right.
Cannot see how to say 'Aid is being misused' other than tell it as it is....a bit of truth doesn't hurt.

 

[Biancazzurro]

Listen to the man himself, this morning on radio 4:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kcJI8g3lU0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[piersa]

Don't worry, it's become expected of you.

I was joking genius

 

[MICK PATCHAM]

His observation is correct . The reaction to his statement hilarious ...love seeing liberals squirm

 

[keaton]

His observation is correct . The reaction to his statement hilarious ...love seeing liberals squirm

Why would a member of UKIP showing how little intelligence he has make liberals squirm?

The foreign aid argument isn't clear cut, and it's not a case of the left being for one thing and the right against. It's about a number or moral, financial and political ideas competing against each other. It's been discussed by the whole of the press and political spectrum for the last few years. It's not that point that is causing the fuss.
It's the fact that he all he brought to the conversation was a casual racist slur and a few stupid and crass generalisations/lies about what aid is spent on.

 

[MissGull]

Would love a cold carton of

 

[daveinprague]

Its what I expect from UKIP representatives. So not surprised, and not squirming.

 

[Postman Pat]

Technically it has never existed.

The point about foreign aid is valid though, don't we give foreign aid to China at the same time as oweing them billions in debt? I've got no problem with helping poorer countries, but we really should be giving it to the right ones.

No, but we do give it to India, despite also giving them a large chunk of our IT and call centre work!!

INDIA

Many have claimed India does not need the cash as it has its own space programme and spends a reported £70 billion a year tackling poverty.

The £280m from the UK is also a tiny amount relative to the country's spending.

The amount is less than 0.03% of India's national income, and less than 2% of what its government spends on rural employment and food subsidy programmes.

Reports claim that India's economy is growing at a rate of eight per cent a year.

Andrew Mitchell, then UK Secretary for International Development, said last year that India is "roaring out of poverty", and is now the 11th biggest economy in the world.

UK aid 2010/11: £274m
UK aid in 2014/15: £280m
& change: +2.19%
Total aid 2010-2015: £1.12bn

 

[somerset]

Why would a member of UKIP showing how little intelligence he has make liberals squirm?

The foreign aid argument isn't clear cut, and it's not a case of the left being for one thing and the right against. It's about a number or moral, financial and political ideas competing against each other. It's been discussed by the whole of the press and political spectrum for the last few years. It's not that point that is causing the fuss.
It's the fact that he all he brought to the conversation was a casual racist slur and a few stupid and crass generalisations/lies about what aid is spent on.

His style of presentation was indeed crass....however for you to casually dismiss the key point he was making about who spends what on what, is in itself crass and ill-informed. It has has been the subject of many public and political debate over the years, the examples like Parisian apartments and Ray Ban sunglasses are not new revelations that this clumsy Ukip individual has suddenly stumbled upon.

 

[keaton]

His style of presentation was indeed crass....however for you to casually dismiss the key point he was making about who spends what on what, is in itself crass and ill-informed. It has has been the subject of many public and political debate over the years, the examples like Parisian apartments and Ray Ban sunglasses are not new revelations that this clumsy Ukip individual has suddenly stumbled upon.

What? I didn't casually dismiss his point, I said he had a point but my presenting it in such a way and using a few extreme(if they're true) examples he was bringing the whole argument down.
You then re-iterated pretty much exactly what I said back at me in arsy manner

 

[somerset]

What? I didn't casually dismiss his point, I said he had a point but my presenting it in such a way and using a few extreme(if they're true) examples he was bringing the whole argument down.
You then re-iterated pretty much exactly what I said back at me in arsy manner

" a few stupid and crass generalisations/lies about what aid is spent on."

.....and who was being arsy? you have a bit of paranoia there,....its a debate sir.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

No, but we do give it to India, despite also giving them a large chunk of our IT and call centre work!!

INDIA

Many have claimed India does not need the cash as it has its own space programme and spends a reported £70 billion a year tackling poverty.

The £280m from the UK is also a tiny amount relative to the country's spending.

The amount is less than 0.03% of India's national income, and less than 2% of what its government spends on rural employment and food subsidy programmes.

Reports claim that India's economy is growing at a rate of eight per cent a year.

Andrew Mitchell, then UK Secretary for International Development, said last year that India is "roaring out of poverty", and is now the 11th biggest economy in the world.

UK aid 2010/11: £274m
UK aid in 2014/15: £280m
& change: +2.19%
Total aid 2010-2015: £1.12bn

Yes, but ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20265583

UK aid to India in 2015/16: NIL

Winding down existing programmes, rather than pulling the plug without warning, is the only responsible way to achieve the change that NO-ONE is arguing about.

 

[keaton]

" a few stupid and crass generalisations/lies about what aid is spent on."

.....and who was being arsy? you have a bit of paranoia there,....its a debate sir.

"To buy Ray-Ban sunglasses, apartments in Paris, Ferraris and all the rest of it that goes with most of the foreign aid."

I think you're intelligent to know most foreign aid doesn't go on the above mentioned. I think it's fair to say claiming that it does is a stupid and crass generalisation which add's nothing to the debate.

 

[somerset]

....is a stupid and crass generalisation .....

Yes, a generalisation, but not completely without some component of truth in there somewhere......I think that's probably what he was trying to say,..... we could all, however, have done without his casual and lazy euphemisms, but he is only an MEP.

 

[The Large One]

His observation is correct . The reaction to his statement hilarious ...love seeing liberals squirm

What is hilarious is that you don't actually understand what that means.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

fair play , he's only saying what a large percentage of the population are thinking , and why UKIP are a viable option to main stream political bullshit
regards
DR

 

[daveinprague]

lol@viable option

 

[Billy the Fish]

It would be quite a sight if you went to a refugee camp and every person had Ray Ban sunglasses, but no food!

 

[Nibble]

It's my understanding that some of the aid is given in exchange for going onto territories and raping their natural resources, so in a way we do benefit, albeit at the cost of the planet sometimes. Bloom has a whisper of a valid point, aid shouldn't be outright condemned though.
This is where UKIP always fall down, they make quite ill informed, sweeping statements and when probed never seem to be able to back it up. I would be interested to hear them come up with some justification or at least some rudimentary facts that lead them to their conclusions rather than falling back on "England is losing out" argument.

"Guardian readers" should question his motives, as we should question ALL politicians motives.