BNP membership list leaked online

[Pretty pink fairy]

oh well ,its all out in the open ........... so what its all in black and white

 

[DTES]

nothing wrong with em. free speech aint it just like a labour or tory twat.

No. It isn't free speech. If it were as simple as that, it would only be the "lefties" who didn't like them, wouldn't it. UKIP have refused to work with them, that itself says how extreme they are.

I think the way to get rid of the BNP is to uncensor them. So much of their racist "policy" gets hidden from view to avoid offence that people don't realise it's there, and use them for a "protest" vote. If the entire population actually got to hear the utter filth they come up with, they'd lose the vast majority of their support instantly.

Let them shoot themselves in the foot; as they've demonstrated here, they're quite capable.

 

[coventrygull]

Just goes to prove that the BNPs biggest enemy isn't the Socialist Workers Party but merely itself.

They've have possibly infringed the Data Protection Act in not ensuring the data was completely tied down and done themselves no good at all in terms of PR.

People are going to think twice about joining if they can't trust the party to keep their personal information safe.

I feel quote comfortable knowing that the extreme parties (from either side of the political spectrum) will never get any real power or influence in this country. They spend far too much time in-fighting rather than their political enemies and generally implode.

I don't think that you could call the BNP extremist but I do agree that smaller parties do have a habit of in fighting. Looks like we have to put up with the same old shit from the red/blue party then

 

[coventrygull]

No. It isn't free speech. If it were as simple as that, it would only be the "lefties" who didn't like them, wouldn't it. UKIP have refused to work with them, that itself says how extreme they are.

I think the way to get rid of the BNP is to uncensor them. So much of their racist "policy" gets hidden from view to avoid offence that people don't realise it's there, and use them for a "protest" vote. If the entire population actually got to hear the utter filth they come up with, they'd lose the vast majority of their support instantly.

Let them shoot themselves in the foot; as they've demonstrated here, they're quite capable.

The BNP have the largest number of hits on their website. So I think people can chose for themselves what the BNP stand for. Its all there no hidden agendas

 

[London Calling]

Just goes to prove that the BNPs biggest enemy isn't the Socialist Workers Party but merely itself.

They've have possibly infringed the Data Protection Act in not ensuring the data was completely tied down and done themselves no good at all in terms of PR.

People are going to think twice about joining if they can't trust the party to keep their personal information safe.

I feel quote comfortable knowing that the extreme parties (from either side of the political spectrum) will never get any real power or influence in this country. They spend far too much time in-fighting rather than their political enemies and generally implode.

In a democracy, BNP's biggest enemy is the electorate?

 

[clapham_gull]

I don't think that you could call the BNP extremist but I do agree that smaller parties do have a habit of in fighting. Looks like we have to put up with the same old shit from the red/blue party then

Even UKIP spend half their time beating each other over the head.

Anyway, can't see how even Griffin can spin this one round to his advantage.

He may argue that the data was stolen, but really it shouldn't have ever been on a position where it was stolen.

From what I understand of the data protection act, if someone breaks into your house and steals a memory stick - you can still be guilty of a breach, since you placed the memory stick in a localtion where it could potentially be stolen.

 

[London Calling]

The BNP have the largest number of hits on their website. So I think people can chose for themselves what the BNP stand for. Its all there no hidden agendas

Why is that?

Is in intrigue?

Or in comparison, the main parties are relatively well covered in the media, the leftish parties are too numerous, to find one representative source. Whhilst in the UK, there is really only the BNP. Other rightish parties are just a shallow mirror of it?

LC

 

[bullshit detector]

Searchlies had been putting out information about nationalist for years. Hence redwatch. As someone who believes in democracy I disagree with both.

Searchlies?

What a giveaway!


By the way, do you know Hugh 'Smelly' Middleton?

 

[coventrygull]

Even UKIP spend half their time beating each other over the head.

Anyway, can't see how even Griffin can spin this one round to his advantage.

He may argue that the data was stolen, but really it shouldn't have ever been on a position where it was stolen.

From what I understand of the data protection act, if someone breaks into your house and steals a memory stick - you can still be guilty of a breach, since you placed the memory stick in a localtion where it could potentially be stolen.

Its alleged that the people that released the information are those that want Griffin gone. Even though I don't think anyone who was a genuine Nationalist would have done this. It will be interesting to see how the story unfolds.

 

[Gully]

Gone

Did find out that the bloke living two doors away from me in my old house is on the list, he must have loved the fact that my neighbour on the other side was a black bloke.

 

[London Calling]

Even UKIP spend half their time beating each other over the head.

Anyway, can't see how even Griffin can spin this one round to his advantage.

He may argue that the data was stolen, but really it shouldn't have ever been on a position where it was stolen.

From what I understand of the data protection act, if someone breaks into your house and steals a memory stick - you can still be guilty of a breach, since you placed the memory stick in a localtion where it could potentially be stolen.

Also depends on the information held.

If its already in the public domain, its no big deal! e.g if your details are already in the telephone directory or on the Royal Mail site. No breach has occured. The same applies if you have voted BNP and your details are on the electoral role.

The issue will be to the punters who have said they love stroking teddy bears for a living etc, that detail, should not be released.

 

[coventrygull]

Searchlies?

What a giveaway!


By the way, do you know Hugh 'Smelly' Middleton?

Lol of course I do. Is he still around.

Anyway whats to giveaway

 

[clapham_gull]

In a democracy, BNP's biggest enemy is the electorate?

Well my point was that when they get any exposure (usually disproportionate to their support) they usually arse it up.

I know Billy Bragg spends a lot of time telling us that complacency lets them in the first place , but to be honest if you are in the mindset of voting for the BNP, you aren't going to listen to Billy Bragg.

Encouraging other people to vote for "anyone but the BNP" doesn't really try and understand why people are driven to vote for them in the first place. Using a simple cause and effect analogy, I like to see more effort in trying to understand and change people's racist views rather them simply ignore them.

 

[coventrygull]

Well my point was that when they get any exposure (usually disproportionate to their support) they usually arse it up.

I know Billy Bragg spends a lot of time telling us that complacency lets them in the first place , but to be honest if you are in the mindset of voting for the BNP, you aren't going to listen to Billy Bragg.

Encouraging other people to vote for "anyone but the BNP" doesn't really try and understand why people are driven to vote for them in the first place. Using a simple cause and effect analogy, I like to see more effort in trying to understand and change people's racist views rather them simply ignore them.

Thats what I called democracy. I don't have a problem with that. Actually the reds and their atitude are one of the reasons some people are drawn to the BNP

 

[1066familyman]

Even UKIP spend half their time beating each other over the head.

Anyway, can't see how even Griffin can spin this one round to his advantage.

He may argue that the data was stolen, but really it shouldn't have ever been on a position where it was stolen.

From what I understand of the data protection act, if someone breaks into your house and steals a memory stick - you can still be guilty of a breach, since you placed the memory stick in a localtion where it could potentially be stolen.

Well then what a load of cack the data protection act is. What are you supposed to do, lock your memory stick up in fort knox !? If they get prosecuted for failing to keep data safe, then there's been a miscarriage of justice, and the BNP would love that.

I agree with what Griffin says on that statement about individuals being hounded by their employers for their political beliefs. The BNP is a not a banned party, nor should it be, and people should be free to join it without fear of persecution. Banning the likes of the BNP only does them a favour. Give them enough rope to hang themselves I say.

 

[clapham_gull]

Also depends on the information held.

If its already in the public domain, its no big deal! e.g if your details are already in the telephone directory or on the Royal Mail site. No breach has occured. The same applies if you have voted BNP and your details are on the electoral role.

The issue will be to the punters who have said they love stroking teddy bears for a living etc, that detail, should not be released.

Is it as simple as that ? Although millions of peoples address already exist in one form or another - it's compilation for a purpose gives it a specific meaning beyond name, address and telephone number.

The data itself is "sensitive" in that it specific compilation tells you the political allegiance of an individual. ( Racial origin and religion also come under the domain of sensitive)

Anyway - because it is sensitive, the rules on storage and use are much stronger than a simple listing in a telephone directory.

 

[clapham_gull]

Well then what a load of cack the data protection act is. What are you supposed to do, lock your memory stick up in fort knox !? If they get prosecuted for failing to keep data safe, then there's been a miscarriage of justice, and the BNP would love that.

I agree with what Griffin says on that statement about individuals being hounded by their employers for their political beliefs. The BNP is a not a banned party, nor should it be, and people should be free to join it without fear of persecution. Banning the likes of the BNP only does them a favour. Give them enough rope to hang themselves I say.

Well quite simply you shouldn't put data on a memory stick.... as I'm sure certain people within the Civil Service are being reminded on a daily basis

Of course you should have procedures in place to stop data being stolen. It's the "data protection act" after all.

 

[coventrygull]

Think the problem is with Griffins security team. Its run by a South African. So he wouldn't be familiar with the data protection act

 

[Cian]

Well then what a load of cack the data protection act is. What are you supposed to do, lock your memory stick up in fort knox !? If they get prosecuted for failing to keep data safe, then there's been a miscarriage of justice, and the BNP would love that.

I agree with what Griffin says on that statement about individuals being hounded by their employers for their political beliefs. The BNP is a not a banned party, nor should it be, and people should be free to join it without fear of persecution. Banning the likes of the BNP only does them a favour. Give them enough rope to hang themselves I say.

Encrypt data, like anyone with an ounce of technical sense does

This was stored unencrypted, and most likely in a f***ing SPREADSHEET application. That is wilffully negligent and would not be seen as a miscarriage of justice.

 

[coventrygull]

Encrypt data, like anyone with an ounce of technical sense does

This was stored unencrypted, and most likely in a f***ing SPREADSHEET application. That is wilffully negligent and would not be seen as a miscarriage of justice.

What about the fact it was stolen?