Blatter wants to loose his draws

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But Blatters problem is that he runs the World Cup which is bedevilled by draws. ever since FIFA decided to give everyone three games minimum during in the Finals of the World Cup, the torurnament has become riddled with really boring drawn games as teams and managers are not prepared to risk losing. This makes for poor television which is of course the driver for more "dramatic" conclusions to games. Draws make for poor quality short tournaments (like the major international championships) because they do not differentiate between teams in the long run and so you end up with too much emphasis on not losing rather than winning games. Reuslt - Dull football. Anyone remember the World Cup Finals of 1990 and 1994 . Hardly a glowing advert for the game were they.

He can't have replays duing championships because of the organisational difficulties

Extra time really pisses the TV organisations off, especially the broadcasters who have to pay for an extra half hour (or longer in the case of penalties) so they're not keen on it, and with penalties now accepted as the final way of deciding games, too many games are now being blighted by the specatcle of both teams playing for penalties, rather than trying to win the game in the extra 30 minutes - so the broadcasters have pay extra to show the world even more boring football.

Golden and silver goals have both failed to encourage teams to try and win games in extra time and so have been abandoned.

So what is a FIFA Chief to do.
Obvious answer- do away with the draw.

Personally I hate penalties - I think they are a travesty of deciding a game. For domestic competions I wopuld favour replays until you get a definite result.

but for short time limited competitions such as international championshiups, they'll have to do for the time being.
 




Easy 10

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Abolishing draws won't make teams any more likely to go all-out for the win. It won't make a blind bit of difference, because you'll STILL have the fear-factor of defeat, regardless.

In fact, its probably even MORE likely to produce stale, defensive football, as in a League situation, the away team will set their stall out to end the match level, and then just take their chances of bagging all the points within the lottery of a penalty shootout.

The proof is already there. Once a cup match goes into extra time, you don't see both teams abandoning their strategies, throwing caution to the wind, and going all-out for the win do you. More often they'll tread carefully through to pens and take their chances. You do get quite a few goals sometimes during extra time, but I'd put that more down to tiredness than suddenly going all-out attack.

Blatter, once more, has his head up his arse. The bloke is a total buffoon, and an embarrassment to himself and to FIFA.
 


kevinsmith

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Seagullsgonnagetya said:
FIFA president Sepp Blatter has proposed scrapping draws in soccer, saying every game should have a winner.

In an idea that would revolutionise the world's most popular sport if adopted, Blatter suggested that matches should be decided by a penalty shoot-out in the case of a draw.

"Every game should have a winner," Blatter told German sports news agency SID.

"When you play cards or any other game, there's always a winner and a loser. We should have the courage to introduce a final decision in every game of football."

Blatter said the best solution would be penalties but added that he would study any other proposal.

"Penalties remain the best way to decide a game in the case of a draw but if anybody has a better idea, I am ready to listen to it," he said.

"A game is about emotions. There is passion. It can be dramatic. At the end of it it's almost always a tragedy.

"We can't be satisfied with draws. (Modern Olympic Games founder) Pierre de Coubertin has said that the important thing was to take part, not to win.

"That's not true. In life you have a goal and in sport, too, you have a goal which you want to achieve."


EXTRA TIME

Blatter said he did not like the principle of extra time, which has led to many dramatic moments over the years.

"The fact that there is a duel over two games which is then decided after extra time is not quite fair," he said.

"After 90 minutes of the return leg, the tie should go straight into penalties. Extra time is like a second home game for the home team."

Soccer's law-making International Board decided in February to scrap both Golden Goals and Silver Goals to end drawn matches in finals of major competitions and to revert to extra time and then penalties.

The FIFA president also reaffirmed that he was against the introduction of video or any other technical device to help referees make controversial decisions.

"As long as I live there will be no technical help (for referees)," he said.

...Whats's so wrong with a draw anyway? Bloody bloke is just trying to enter the history books IMHO

He must have been listen to DC at Withdean

"Lets have a winner"

Then Blatter will listen to Roberts and then there will be no AWAY's either
 
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Stumpy Tim

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Blatter is the most currupt inept leader the great game could have. He is an utter disgrace. By settling games on penalties we'll end up with teams like Argentina in 94 where they got to the final by only winning one match & getting through on penalties in all knockout games.

I've hated Blatter since his blatant influence in the Rio Ferdinand affair. I know people disagree, but there is no way Rio deserved an 8 month ban after going to such lengths in proving he hadn't taken drugs. By testing his hair molecules, drugs would have been found easily. Once this became clear Rio should have got nothing more than a warning - like the Man City player a year before who got fined $10,000. But because Blatter wanted to punish England for voting against him in the last election, he told the FA that if we didn't ban him for the Euro Championships UEFA would. He's a scumbag
 


Easy 10

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Stumpy Tim said:
I know people disagree, but there is no way Rio deserved an 8 month ban after going to such lengths in proving he hadn't taken drugs. By testing his hair molecules, drugs would have been found easily. Once this became clear Rio should have got nothing more than a warning
Come on Tim, I can't stand Blatter either. But the Ferdinand scandal went well beyond whether or not he had actually taken drugs - the guy skipped the test. The FA were absolutely right to hammer him with that ban and make a high-profile example of him. The last thing we need is players getting the idea that they can avoid drug tests by simply and conveniently claiming they "forgot" (god help us).

As for the Man City player getting away with it the year before - I don't see why the FA should follow a bad precedent just because the previous incumbants predictably fudged the whole issue.

We are in agreement with Blatter, but polls apart on Rio (and I'm still at odds with my mates on that issue as well !)
 




Pavilionaire

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Abolishing draws is the idea of a man who clearly does not actively support a team home and away.

Part of the fun of following your team away from home is coming back with a hard-earned point, honours even, as per Bristol City on Saturday.

It was clear neither side deserved to win. Yet Blatter would have us force the issue. Twat.

If, God forbid, this idea came to fruition, two points occur to me: firstly, instead of 3 points for a win the eventual winners should only get two points, with the loser getting one point.

Secondly, the value of good shot-stopping goalkeepers would rocket. A decent keeper who wins, say, 70% of penalty shootouts, could almost single-handedly give his side an extra 10 or 11 points a season in shootouts alone. Overnight, David James could be worth as much as David Beckham.
 


Stumpy Tim

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Easy 10 said:
Come on Tim, I can't stand Blatter either. But the Ferdinand scandal went well beyond whether or not he had actually taken drugs - the guy skipped the test. The FA were absolutely right to hammer him with that ban and make a high-profile example of him. The last thing we need is players getting the idea that they can avoid drug tests by simply and conveniently claiming they "forgot" (god help us).

But he did forget, and then offered to go back & take it TWO HOURS later and was told not to bother!!
 


Easy 10

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At the risk of diverting this thread completely off-topic...the fact that he offered to take the test 2 hours later does not excuse him from the fact that he didn't turn up for it in the first place. The whole point of a random drugs test is exactly that - it is RANDOM. You can't have players being told "you've got a drugs test straight after training", then ducking off for a couple of hours to who-knows-where because they "forgot", then offering to come back later to take the test. Who knows what they could put into their system during those 2 hours to disguise something ?

As it happens, I don't believe Rio had taken any drugs - I think he's just genuinely stupid. But if you relax the rules for him, you send out the wrong message that this kind of thing will be tolerated from players in the future, when you just cannot have that happening.
 






Simster

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Pavilionaire said:
Abolishing draws is the idea of a man who clearly does not actively support a team home and away.

Part of the fun of following your team away from home is coming back with a hard-earned point, honours even, as per Bristol City on Saturday.

It was clear neither side deserved to win. Yet Blatter would have us force the issue. Twat.

If, God forbid, this idea came to fruition, two points occur to me: firstly, instead of 3 points for a win the eventual winners should only get two points, with the loser getting one point.

Secondly, the value of good shot-stopping goalkeepers would rocket. A decent keeper who wins, say, 70% of penalty shootouts, could almost single-handedly give his side an extra 10 or 11 points a season in shootouts alone. Overnight, David James could be worth as much as David Beckham.
Wise words. Besides which, I like the virtue of the draw. If neither side does enough to win, or play out an excellent game with the scores even, then is a draw not a fair outcome?

I really do think the time has come for the World Cup to allow replays (in successive days) before the annoying penalty lottery. I can't believe it's *that* difficult to organise in this day and age. OK, not ideal but better than changing the very essence of the game.
 
















DTES

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Stumpy Tim said:
But he did forget, and then offered to go back & take it TWO HOURS later and was told not to bother!!

But wasn't it shown that this was AFTER he'd phoned his doctor?
 


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