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[shabba]

Incidentally, I think McGhee is the only manager to get the best out of Leon over a prolonged period of time. He is now plying hs trade with MK Dons down in League Two. Jarrett is a funny one, showed flashes of what he could do, but has never performed to an acceptable standard, that is clearly not McGhee's fault. If he was going to make it, I am sure a network of scouts would have picked up on him when he was at Watford. CKR was clearly here (as was Henderson) as a stepping stone to greater things. Unfortunately, they didn't want to slog it out at Brighton, but wanted instant rewards. That is one of the dangers when you have a reputation, as a club, of giving youth a chance.

I am not convinced, McGhees biggest fault was that he wholly believed in what he was doing, which is a good trait in a manger when he does, but when he does not it is a complete hinderance and for me means he was well past his selby date.

This especially applies to his inability to get the best out of his players, CKR is doing well in the premiership, why could he not get that level of performance out of him? McGhee certainly did and still does believe he is a great manager, incorrectlyi in my opinion and if so then surley he would have the same capabilities as Neil Warnock?

 

[Barrel of Fun]

I am not convinced, McGhees biggest fault was that he wholly believed in what he was doing, which is a good trait in a manger when he does, but when he does not it is a complete hinderance and for me means he was well past his selby date.

This especially applies to his inability to get the best out of his players, CKR is doing well in the premiership, why could he not get that level of performance out of him? McGhee certainly did and still does believe he is a great manager, incorrectlyi in my opinion and if so then surley he would have the same capabilities as Neil Warnock?

His shelf life at Brighton was up, but that doesn't mean he is not a good manager. He managed to haul us to our highest finish for over 10 years on a shoe string budget. That is no mean feat.


On CKR:

It certainly helps CKRs game, playing with players of a higher standard. Getting the best out of someone? Surely there is only so much a manager can do. It is about discipline and applying yourself. Did we ever see CKR run himself into the ground, consistently? His performances really tailed off when we got to the nitty gritty end of the season and rumours were abound of Wolves being interested. If he had half the commitment of someone like McShane, Hart, Hammond or Revell, then he could have set the league on fire. As it turned out, he couldn't wait to rub shoulders with the big boys, without putting the work in to start off with.

 

[shabba]

Yes but why could Neal Warnock get the level of performance out of him and not McGhee if he was a good manager?

Its true that he had some promotions on his cv, but if you examine it closely he was a one trick pony. If he had a bunch of limited ability work horses all pulling in the same direction he could in the lower leagues get them promoted, but as soon as he had to deal with talent and big egos, he couldnt harness then in the team or vary his stick and no carrot approach.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Despite managing to do just that in the two previous seasons. I would hardly describe Leon as being someone with JUST a big ego. Shit stirring troublemaker would be far more apt. How did we stay up in the Championship despite having one of/the smallest turnovers, with such a one trick pony?

 

[shabba]

Leon's last incident was due to the fact that he said he thought the managment team didn't know what they were doing after they dropped FDM for that useless french twat and to be frank I agree with him, so his final ruck was for telling the truth, hardly trouble making!

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Leon's last incident was due to the fact that he said he thought the managment team didn't know what they were doing after they dropped FDM for that useless french twat and to be frank I agree with him, so his final ruck was for telling the truth, hardly trouble making!

Surely, a player should toe the line and speak to the board if he is not happy with the managers selection. It is not up to Leon to decide who gets picked, anyway! He is a poor excuse of a professional footballer, let alone being capable of managing a team.

There are ways of voicing disapproval, but do we know in what manner Leon did this? I think it is pretty obvious, Leon did not follow the correct channels and tried to undermime McGhee, embarrass him in front of the team.

Incidentally, why is Chaigneau a twat?

 

[Yorkie]

Leon's last incident was due to the fact that he said he thought the managment team didn't know what they were doing after they dropped FDM for that useless french twat and to be frank I agree with him, so his final ruck was for telling the truth, hardly trouble making!

You haven't got a clue. Leon fell out with every manager who has had the dubious pleasure of trying to manage him from Macari, through Turner, Holloway, McGhee (who managed him longer than the rest put together) Jackett and now he's in League 2 and still not producing the goods. I know of a couple of Brighton players who would love to give him a thick ear or two.

 

[shabba]

These sort of things happen all the time at football clubs and it is also for the manager to choose his battles and anyway if they keep making crap decisions they fail to get the best out of players beacuse they have no confidence in the manager. In any case Leon said this to FDM and Dean White overheared and grassed him up to McGhee, sounds like another insecure yes man to me.

 

[shabba]

You haven't got a clue. Leon fell out with every manager who has had the dubious pleasure of trying to manage him from Macari, through Turner, Holloway, McGhee (who managed him longer than the rest put together) Jackett and now he's in League 2 and still not producing the goods. I know of a couple of Brighton players who would love to give him a thick ear or two.

He didnt fall out with Steve Copell and he got the best out of him.

 

[Yorkie]

He didnt fall out with Steve Copell and he got the best out of him.

For a whole 8 weeks.

 

[shabba]

For a whole 8 weeks.

And we were top of the league which McGhee managed to turn in to a play off place.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

And we were top of the league which McGhee managed to turn in to a play off place.

That is completely irrelevant. How many teams maintain their position in the league after just 12 games!? Besides that, he didn't do too badly in the following season, despite being odds on to go down.

 

[shabba]

Sheffield Utd last year!

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Yes but why could Neal Warnock get the level of performance out of him and not McGhee if he was a good manager?

Warnock was able to tell CKR that if he didn't knuckle under and perform, he would never play professional football again.

When the same message got to him at Brighton, CKR simply didn't believe it, because we weren't in the Premiership. So he didn't bother.

 

[BensGrandad]

f*** ME SIDEWARDS WITH A MARROW


Someone suggesting Bens Grandad being a DK lacky. I think that is the funniest thing I have ever seen on here.


The world has gone stark staring mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shabba is obviously well voiced in the views of people on here

I want to be a yes man please

From where did this idea that I am a DK laccy come from

 

[shabba]

Warnock was able to tell CKR that if he didn't knuckle under and perform, he would never play professional football again.

When the same message got to him at Brighton, CKR simply didn't believe it, because we weren't in the Premiership. So he didn't bother.

Then its the managers fault for not commanding the respect to convince people. Part of the reason he didnt get respect was beacuse of all his faults which I have previously mentioned and cant be bothered to repeat. The league we are in is just an excuse and holds no water.