[Albion] BHA supporter club?

[TottonSeagull]

You sound like a c@nt. Maybe, your time would be better spent supporting Crystal Palace.

You’re fast becoming a very annoying poster.

A man who talks sense. Can’t understand why this tool thinks he can lecture people who actually support the club and haven’t just turned up because of a man crush on the manager! He talks utter tripe!

 

[Seasider78]

I admit that the second part was a bit condescending, just a poor expression of frustration:

EVERY week there is one or multiple threads about English supporter culture with most saying "it could be better".

I think "okay, and whats the reason a lot of English fans feel this way? What are the solutions?"

I point to the fact that a lot of countries with generally more lively support got strong supporter club working hard for great atmosphere etc, and suggest that perhaps trying to initiate a really strong supporter club would be a great idea.

The response? - Like I started a thread about selling drugs to four year olds. My idea was to start a discussion that could possibly lead somewhere great.

But by all means, just keep whining every ****ing week instead of even considering possible solutions. I'm not trying to force you - if you dont want a big fat, well organized supporter club, its fine. It was just an idea. Calm the **** down and return to your high horses and admire your flawless, unimprovable situation.

I have been to games in Europe and Germany aside the atmosphere was no better and in many cases worse than England. So rather than some schoolboy Noddy fan club making rubbish banners we should reduce ticket prices and have beer in seats which will soon sort things out.

 

[Swansman]

Thanks for the supportive PM:s from a few people - means the idea probably is not all that shit after all.

I wont be reading more in this thread as it is turning out to be out me instead of a possible new/remodeled supporter club, which is what I wanted to initiate a discussion about.

I prefer the thread to be removed but done with suggestions, so feel free to use this is another thread to puke out meaningless aggression and hatred - just know I have no intention to read it.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Thanks for the supportive PM:s from a few people - means the idea probably is not all that shit after all.

I wont be reading more in this thread as it is turning out to be out me instead of a possible new/remodeled supporter club, which is what I wanted to initiate a discussion about.

I prefer the thread to be removed but done with suggestions, so feel free to use this is another thread to puke out meaningless aggression and hatred - just know I have no intention to read it.

Ha ha

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

There’s already a Scandinavian Seagulls club.

Hmmm something tells me though that it isn't the kind of 'supporters club' he is hoping to unearth.

After all, anarchy isn't exactly the Albion's way is it?

 

[Bakero]

Not sure why the guy is getting so much aggression for making a simple suggestion. People need to chill.

 

[dejavuatbtn]

I thought the club had banned any official supporters club that they didn’t run or milk.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Hmmm something tells me though that it isn't the kind of 'supporters club' he is hoping to unearth.

After all, anarchy isn't exactly the Albion's way is it?

A little anarchy helped save the club though. Far better than a person standing at the front on a little platform and a megaphone like you get abroad.

 

[NooBHA]

Thanks for the supportive PM:s from a few people - means the idea probably is not all that shit after all.

I wont be reading more in this thread as it is turning out to be out me instead of a possible new/remodeled supporter club, which is what I wanted to initiate a discussion about.

I prefer the thread to be removed but done with suggestions, so feel free to use this is another thread to puke out meaningless aggression and hatred - just know I have no intention to read it.

Seeing as you are not reading this thread any further you won't probably see this.

If you feel the need to let people know that you have had approval from private messages then it would seem that approval is important to you.

However, to me sometime you come across as some sort of right wing thug. Then in other posts I think of you as a left wing "tree hugging" member of the " Swedish Bohemian Intelligentsia "

Would the real Swansman stand up please ?

 

[Palacefinder General]

Not sure why the guy is getting so much aggression for making a simple suggestion. People need to chill.

100%. Be kind people. No need for it.

 

[RossyG]

He came out as a thief in another thread. He seemed quite proud of it too.

 

[BN41Albion]

If the leverkusen ultras I saw at the Palace game are anything to go by, then nah, you're alright thanks.

Our football culture is amazing here. It penetrates every aspect of life. It might not transmit to the stands sometimes at the moment but the passion for football is huge in England, hence why you see very well supported old money division 4 clubs , huge away attendances on a Tuesday night, etc

Hopefully there'll be a shift, maybe when safe standing comes in, but 'slightly criminal ultra groups' certainly isn't the answer here

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I thought the club had banned any official supporters club that they didn’t run or milk.

What a strange comment.

 

[Chicken Run]

Great idea if you ask me. Unfortunately your largely trying to educate a bunch of middle aged, arm chair managers who all want to moan constantly


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Equally weird

 

[Guinness Boy]

Seeing as you are not reading this thread any further you won't probably see this.

If you feel the need to let people know that you have had approval from private messages then it would seem that approval is important to you.

However, to me sometime you come across as some sort of right wing thug. Then in other posts I think of you as a left wing "tree hugging" member of the " Swedish Bohemian Intelligentsia "

Would the real Swansman stand up please ?

Well, this.

There are some "non-fans" on here that the board would genuinely be worse off without and I think you are the classic example. You "get" NSC and are always yourself. You could have gone massively bitter in the the wake of CH's sacking and didn't. You appear less often but, when you do, you generally add value.

On the other hand [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] is an attention seeking fanboy who will post pretty much anything on here to get a litle bit of attention and approval. The actual presumptiveness of mailing Paul Barber to tell him what was wrong after following the team for almost literally five minutes.

And here we go again. "Ultra Culture" does not work in England. It's not how we follow football and never will be. There is one, famous exception to this rule and they are our biggest rivals. They are people who have turned up to a youth team match with banners and a drum, forced their way into The Amex, moving other Palace fans with legally held tickets out of their seats, doing the same at Selhurst Park, defacing a mural of Brighton's captain, screaming for a police escort whenever it gets a bit tasty and dressing like ****ing bellends. And a guy from Sweden wants to emulate them after five minutes following us? Unbelieveable.

 

[StonehamPark]

Thanks for the supportive PM:s from a few people - means the idea probably is not all that shit after all.

I personally don't have a problem with you ideas, I don't think it'd realistically work out though.

What I do consider though, is that you are primarilly a fan of GP - so I feel you will likely be following him long-term, rather than the club. So if/when GP is off in however many years, you will likely be off to the next club's message board, rendering your ideas and work here fruitless.

 

[dejavuatbtn]

What a strange comment.

It is my understanding that the club wants to manage anything under it’s banner, including official supporters clubs.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

It is my understanding that the club wants to manage anything under it’s banner, including official supporters clubs.

I don’t know of any official supporters clubs.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Sometimes I forget you are all 60+ and done with anarchy.

To raise a new generation of loud and fanatical fans I think the slightly criminal Ultras thing is the way to go though. The alternative is probably some kind of choir which would be pretty uncool and not very menacing.

Pal, before you start another thread, look up BISA and Liz Costa. And read 'Build a Bonfire'. Some of our supporters have been there and done it... all. It may come as a surprise to some, but we haven't always been in the Premier League, either.

 

[Swansman]

Well, this.

On the other hand [MENTION=38333]Swansman[/MENTION] is an attention seeking fanboy who will post pretty much anything on here to get a litle bit of attention and approval. The actual presumptiveness of mailing Paul Barber to tell him what was wrong after following the team for almost literally five minutes.

And here we go again. "Ultra Culture" does not work in England. It's not how we follow football and never will be. There is one, famous exception to this rule and they are our biggest rivals. They are people who have turned up to a youth team match with banners and a drum, forced their way into The Amex, moving other Palace fans with legally held tickets out of their seats, doing the same at Selhurst Park, defacing a mural of Brighton's captain, screaming for a police escort whenever it gets a bit tasty and dressing like ****ing bellends. And a guy from Sweden wants to emulate them after five minutes following us? Unbelieveable.

Well, when I get a mention from a moderator - what can I do but to check it. I know the moderator type of person very well...

I dont want to discuss me (except for in particular topics where its relevant) but I have to defend myself here since you are painting a picture that is simply not true.

These are my passions: writing, football, building communities/cultures.

I dont follow Potter because I'm that horny about short passing between defenders, I follow him because his again and again repeated words about connecting a club and a city. Thats what drives me to follow him and hope for his success at achieving this.

I come from a very, very poor family and I'm reluctant to talk about it too much, but this time... its needed if you are to understand me.

My mother and I were homeless when I was aged 6-7. It was going to hell, the usual story millions and millions of kids go through - drunk father, uneducated mother.

When I was 7 she finally, with some help from her friends, got a permanent place to live. It was a extremely leftish and hippie neighboorhod called Djingis Khan. Everyone cared about eachother. We had block parties, all the kids were running around barefoot, all the grownups drinking coffee and whatnot day and night. It was magic. Mother was saved from a very deep depression, and I dont even want to know what I was saved from.

Later on, gentrification happened. When I was 20 it had all gone a bit bourgoeis and not at all the same feeling. It hurt me. I moved to the socialist student nation in Lund, Smålands, where once again I had a fantastic community feeling for five or six years. It was great, we did things together! Demonstrations, party, art... I loved it. We had all kinds of issues but no one was depressed or lonely.

Same thing happened there, a bit of gentrification. Out with the hippie communists and in with the more harsh feminists. Everything died.

I ran a website about my home city for a lot of years (mittlund.wordpress.com), I have been starting culture festivals, I have worked long and hard to recruit kids to the youth sports at home. Giving back to things that save my life.

Now I witness a world where mental illness, loneliness and stigmas are crushing people. I hate it. I hate the sanitased globalisation. I hate the Orwellian development. I hate that (mainly) the kids and teens of today dont have the same analogue, warm and free communities that I grew up in and that gave me so much.

When I want a supporter club in Brighton, I think of young adults having a beer and making creative stuff in some basement. Producing banners together, singing together, ****ing eachother. I dont think about your "attention", I just want help to make strong communities and firmly believe that supporter club etc strengthen the relation between the object of passion and the people passionate about it. I want people to connect, meet friends and to feel that they have meaningful lives. And "Crystal Palace have a supporter club so we cant have it" is not going to change my views.

You are completely clueless and prejudical about why I do the things I do. I dont email Paul Barber or suggest a supporters club because I want attention from some stranger I've never met. I do things because I have strong feelings about improving certain aspects of society. The reason I post stuff here is because the things I wish for are impossible to achieve on your own.