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[Finance] Base rate increase.



heavysoul

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Weststander

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According to both the BBC and Sky News experts/interviewees, they all predict that, then graduated falls.

Whilst the US Fed are going further with increases after that.

Out of 27.8m UK households, this will affect:
  • 2.9m households with a variable rate mortgage; and
  • 1.8m households with fixed rate mortgages, deals ending in 2023.
Average UK mortgage debt is £126,000.
 

dazzer6666

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I really fail to understand how this curbs the current inflation problem. Inflation is not being driven by things that an interest rate rise will impact. It will stop spending certainly because this just makes a terrible situation for people that are already struggling far worse.
It’s not quite that simple though….way less than half of households have mortgages…..and those that have savings will have more to spend. Agree it’s another horrible kick in the nuts for those struggling though.
 


Westdene Seagull

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Oct 27, 2003
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I really fail to understand how this curbs the current inflation problem. Inflation is not being driven by things that an interest rate rise will impact. It will stop spending certainly because this just makes a terrible situation for people that are already struggling far worse.
THIS .... with bells on. Unless the BoE really think hiking interest rates up will lower energy costs which are one of the main inflationary things :facepalm:
 

Weststander

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THIS .... with bells on. Unless the BoE really think hiking interest rates up will lower energy costs which are one of the main inflationary things :facepalm:
I always said the same. Then the BoE explained that these hikes are to prevent secondary inflation.
https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/explainers/why-are-interest-rates-in-the-uk-going-up

The argument that they dampen a spiral of high wage increases (in effect private sector) and resulting price rises. Short term pain to prevent enduring high inflation that would destroy the capital value of savings in real terms, and exacerbate the wages/price hikes pressure.
 
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Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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THIS .... with bells on. Unless the BoE really think hiking interest rates up will lower energy costs which are one of the main inflationary things :facepalm:
What a lovely day to report

Oil giant Shell posts highest-ever annual profit of $40 billion​

This while millions of people have to think very seriously about the choice between heating or eating. It truly is shameful
 


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ropey9

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I always said the same. Then the BoE explained that these hikes are to prevent secondary inflation.
https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/explainers/why-are-interest-rates-in-the-uk-going-up

The argument that they dampen a spiral of high (in effect private sector) and resulting price rises. Short term pain to prevent enduring high inflation that would destroy the capital value of savings in real terms, and exacerbate the wages/price hikes pressure.
Its not really helping much then, the whole country is on strike due to the cost of existing (yes this is simplistic), can't see this making this better.

It will be interesting to see the mortgage default rate / repossessions. Maybe it will help with house prices as the poor buggers that lose their houses will increase the supply. Probably not as the wealthy will just snap up the repossession and rent them back to the same people.
 

pb21

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southstandandy

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It's amazing how 4% now seems high. Sadly I'm old enough to have had mortgage in the 80's when I had a 5 year deal at 8% and inflation was poor then too. How times change.
 

Weststander

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Its not really helping much then, the whole country is on strike due to the cost of existing (yes this is simplistic), can't see this making this better.

It will be interesting to see the mortgage default rate / repossessions. Maybe it will help with house prices as the poor buggers that lose their houses will increase the supply. Probably not as the wealthy will just snap up the repossession and rent them back to the same people.
That really happened in the early/mid 90's in huge numbers. You might recall?
 

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