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[News] Baby murder nurse case







Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,508
Haywards Heath
Odd to say i know but photos of her don't look like a child murderer. I mean they never look like monsters, killers mostly are bland and banal, but she looks.... kind. As ever, can't judge a book by it's cover (whether she's innocent or guilty). Shocking crime to be accused of.

I've always found this really interesting. On the news they regularly roll out a neighbour or acquaintance of a paedo/murderer for a generic "he was always very polite, I never expected this" comment.

The thinking seems to be that people who do abhorrent things will be abhorrent in every facet of their lives, which is just wrong. Psychopaths are often intelligent, articulate and charming.

I think people just want to be presented with a binary choice of good or evil.
 




Motogull

Todd Warrior
Sep 16, 2005
9,916
Then use that thread as a platform to 'discuss' racism.

I suppose we all have different ways of trying to unravel such a terrible situation. I can feel an element of sexism though in the sense that had it been a male, I would probably have piled in a bit more. That is not to downplay anything.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,401
You missed the most important one........the dead babies were white. Dead black babies matter much more, and even more so if they can be photographed (say) washed up on a coastline.

Had they been black we would have a campaign by footballers, tv celebrities, tv specials, a cenotaph, and football matches would be proceeded by the players curling up in a foetal position on the pitch as a sign of solidarity.

I’m disappointed, I thought you knew better.

You'll be disappointed with that post. And possibly ashamed, though I won't hold my breath
 




Weststander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 25, 2011
64,359
Withdean area
You missed the most important one........the dead babies were white. Dead black babies matter much more, and even more so if they can be photographed (say) washed up on a coastline.

Had they been black we would have a campaign by footballers, tv celebrities, tv specials, a cenotaph, and football matches would be proceeded by the players curling up in a foetal position on the pitch as a sign of solidarity.

I’m disappointed, I thought you knew better.

An awful post.

Even if you’re being rhetorical, how do you know the race/ethnicity of the lost babies?
 


NooBHA

Well-known member
Jan 13, 2015
8,586
You missed the most important one........the dead babies were white. Dead black babies matter much more, and even more so if they can be photographed (say) washed up on a coastline.

Had they been black we would have a campaign by footballers, tv celebrities, tv specials, a cenotaph, and football matches would be proceeded by the players curling up in a foetal position on the pitch as a sign of solidarity.

I’m disappointed, I thought you knew better.


Over the years on this site I have seen many posts I have been shocked by or disagreed with.

That one - I can't even find an emotion in my vocabulary to describe it.
 


RossyG

Well-known member
Dec 20, 2014
2,630
I’ve no idea why this particular case has generated so little reaction on NSC.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-54930233

Is it due to becoming desensitised to such things? That seems improbable given that the charge is the murder of eight babies and attempt to do the same to ten more.

Is it because the story has become squeezed by personality politics (Trump, Cummings) and events? (Someone dropping out of Strictly had more air time on the BBC 6pm news last night than this case).

It’s not a criticism of anyone here, but given the (rightful) headlines in relation to the death of Peter Sutcliffe and the terrible things he did this case seems to have slipped under the radar and provoke little reaction.

In my case, it’s simply that it’s a case in progress and judgement hasn't yet been pronounced.
 




jonnyrovers

mostly tinpot
Aug 13, 2013
1,181
Shoreham-by-Sea
You missed the most important one........the dead babies were white. Dead black babies matter much more, and even more so if they can be photographed (say) washed up on a coastline.

Had they been black we would have a campaign by footballers, tv celebrities, tv specials, a cenotaph, and football matches would be proceeded by the players curling up in a foetal position on the pitch as a sign of solidarity.

I’m disappointed, I thought you knew better.

One for this poster to reflect on I think.....
 


The Merry Prankster

Pactum serva
Aug 19, 2006
5,577
Shoreham Beach
You missed the most important one........the dead babies were white. Dead black babies matter much more, and even more so if they can be photographed (say) washed up on a coastline.

Had they been black we would have a campaign by footballers, tv celebrities, tv specials, a cenotaph, and football matches would be proceeded by the players curling up in a foetal position on the pitch as a sign of solidarity.

I’m disappointed, I thought you knew better.

After years of teetering on the edge this poster has finally slipped into the abyss
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
I've always found this really interesting. On the news they regularly roll out a neighbour or acquaintance of a paedo/murderer for a generic "he was always very polite, I never expected this" comment.

The thinking seems to be that people who do abhorrent things will be abhorrent in every facet of their lives, which is just wrong. Psychopaths are often intelligent, articulate and charming.

I think people just want to be presented with a binary choice of good or evil.

I agree. I watched a recent documentary on Harold Shipman, and how he groomed his patients with kindness, and that nobody would believe he was capable of what he did. That's how he got away with it for decades,
 




marlowe

Well-known member
Dec 13, 2015
3,938
You missed the most important one........the dead babies were white. Dead black babies matter much more, and even more so if they can be photographed (say) washed up on a coastline.

Had they been black we would have a campaign by footballers, tv celebrities, tv specials, a cenotaph, and football matches would be proceeded by the players curling up in a foetal position on the pitch as a sign of solidarity.

I’m disappointed, I thought you knew better.

Sadly, your post has only served to prove the point [MENTION=1200]Harry Wilson's tackle[/MENTION] was making. A perfect example of how satire (his use of, not yours) can sometimes be a more accurate reflection of reality than it really should be.
 


rogersix

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2014
7,905
You missed the most important one........the dead babies were white. Dead black babies matter much more, and even more so if they can be photographed (say) washed up on a coastline.

Had they been black we would have a campaign by footballers, tv celebrities, tv specials, a cenotaph, and football matches would be proceeded by the players curling up in a foetal position on the pitch as a sign of solidarity.

I’m disappointed, I thought you knew better.

Presumably, you've set out to be as offensive as possible
 


Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
59,807
The Fatherland
You missed the most important one........the dead babies were white. Dead black babies matter much more, and even more so if they can be photographed (say) washed up on a coastline.

Had they been black we would have a campaign by footballers, tv celebrities, tv specials, a cenotaph, and football matches would be proceeded by the players curling up in a foetal position on the pitch as a sign of solidarity.

I’m disappointed, I thought you knew better.

Jesus.
 




Pretty Plnk Fairy

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 30, 2008
786
You missed the most important one........the dead babies were white. Dead black babies matter much more, and even more so if they can be photographed (say) washed up on a coastline.

Had they been black we would have a campaign by footballers, tv celebrities, tv specials, a cenotaph, and football matches would be proceeded by the players curling up in a foetal position on the pitch as a sign of solidarity.

I’m disappointed, I thought you knew better.

even im struggling to put this down as bantz

Regards

DF
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
50,591
Faversham
Sadly, your post has only served to prove the point [MENTION=1200]Harry Wilson's tackle[/MENTION] was making. A perfect example of how satire (his use of, not yours) can sometimes be a more accurate reflection of reality than it really should be.

I can guess the sort of faded-brain nonsense he's written. Why does he bother to reply when he must know I have him on ignore? The antichrist version of virtue-signaling I presume. :shrug:
 




Neville's Breakfast

Well-known member
May 1, 2016
13,423
Oxton, Birkenhead
You missed the most important one........the dead babies were white. Dead black babies matter much more, and even more so if they can be photographed (say) washed up on a coastline.

Had they been black we would have a campaign by footballers, tv celebrities, tv specials, a cenotaph, and football matches would be proceeded by the players curling up in a foetal position on the pitch as a sign of solidarity.

I’m disappointed, I thought you knew better.

Horrible post.
Reported.

Anyway, back to the case. We’ve just moved to the area so will likely be following coverage on regional news.
 
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Goldstone1976

We Got Calde in!!
Helpful Moderator
NSC Patron
Apr 30, 2013
13,802
Herts
You missed the most important one........the dead babies were white. Dead black babies matter much more, and even more so if they can be photographed (say) washed up on a coastline.

Had they been black we would have a campaign by footballers, tv celebrities, tv specials, a cenotaph, and football matches would be proceeded by the players curling up in a foetal position on the pitch as a sign of solidarity.

I’m disappointed, I thought you knew better.

Nah. Thanks though.
 


Klaas

I've changed this
Nov 1, 2017
2,569
You missed the most important one........the dead babies were white. Dead black babies matter much more, and even more so if they can be photographed (say) washed up on a coastline.

Had they been black we would have a campaign by footballers, tv celebrities, tv specials, a cenotaph, and football matches would be proceeded by the players curling up in a foetal position on the pitch as a sign of solidarity.

I’m disappointed, I thought you knew better.

Wow. That took a bit of time type out too, and not once did you think, nah, that's a bit much, *delete*
 


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