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Goldstone Rapper

Rediffusion PlayerofYear
Jan 19, 2009
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We won the war. We can send whoever we want to visit the Falklands. Surely?
 




When you say own, it is owned by the people that live there, not by us. Who do you think should own it, Argentina, just because they're closer? Could you remind me when Argentina last owned the Falkland Islands (it's a trick question).
I think you'll find that the local residents own very little of the islands. "Ownership" is in the hands of the Crown. The locals don't even have the right to pass any laws that matter. That right lies with HM the Q, acting through the Privy Council.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
55,708
Goldstone
I think you'll find that the local residents own very little of the islands. "Ownership" is in the hands of the Crown. The locals don't even have the right to pass any laws that matter.
The locals here don't have the right to pass laws either. But my understanding is that should the oil there become viable and valuable, the proceeds wouldn't go into the British treasury, but would belong to the islanders, hence my comment that they own the islands. If you've got any links to show that the British treasury would get the oil, I'll stand corrected.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
44,127
Crap Town
The locals here don't have the right to pass laws either. But my understanding is that should the oil there become viable and valuable, the proceeds wouldn't go into the British treasury, but would belong to the islanders, hence my comment that they own the islands. If you've got any links to show that the British treasury would get the oil, I'll stand corrected.

It will be the oil companies who make the money , the tax revenues will make the FI self sufficient.
 






Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
55,708
Goldstone
It will be the oil companies who make the money , the tax revenues will make the FI self sufficient.
Oil companies make good money, but it's nothing compared to the owners of the oil. It's not the oil companies that are trillionaires, it's the countries in the middle east.
my understanding is that should the oil there become viable and valuable, the proceeds wouldn't go into the British treasury, but would belong to the islanders, hence my comment that they own the islands. If you've got any links to show that the British treasury would get the oil, I'll stand corrected.
Just reading an old Guardian article on the subject which suggests that the oil wouldn't belong to the islanders:
The Falklands can no longer remain as Britain's expensive nuisance | Simon Jenkins | Comment is free | The Guardian
maybe I'll have to stand corrected.
 








wunt be druv

Drat! and double drat!
Jun 17, 2011
2,273
In my own strange world
Yes it was a revenge fixture for the battle of Coronel off the coast of Chile, the Krauts stuffed us there, but we sank 3 out of 4 of their South Atlantic squadron at the Falklands.

Nice one mate,my great uncle was CPO on HMS Invincible in the South Atlantic on patrol with HMS.Glasgow and HMS.Kent,they kicked German Navy ARSE on Dec.8 1914,we received a letter of thanks from the people of the Falklands Islands on the 50th. Anniversary along with some one off stamps and coins.Rule Britannia....!
 


wunt be druv

Drat! and double drat!
Jun 17, 2011
2,273
In my own strange world
I had an uncle who died in the earlier Battle of Coronel in 1914, one of the precursors to The Battle of the Falklands. He was a Brighton [St. Lukes] boy and was killed in action at the so tender age of 16 yrs. I understand a memorial was unveiled in the school a couple of years ago to commemorate the brave fallen.

It is for people,like your uncle, that we should always wear poppies and never forget what they went through,respect to your family,my great uncle luckily survived,and went on to serve on board the Mighty Hood,HMS.Prince of Wales,HMS.King George V. and HMS.Belfast before wussing out and becoming a shore based REMF at HMS.Daedelus.
 


We won the war. We can send whoever we want to visit the Falklands. Surely?

More than that, they had no right just taking it from us back then in the most undiplomatic of acts.

The Argentinian leadership deciding to take The Falklands aggressively, was a threat to ALL our protectorates, commonwealth, and our own World status.
If we want to have a big ol' knees-up shindig on our land, then it's no-one alse's business.
 




smudge

Up the Albion!
Jul 8, 2003
7,407
On the ocean wave
Maybe if the Argies had continued down the diplomatic route they would have had "their" islands back many years ago. However, they chose a different path & many of my shipmates paid the price.
I was there, but have no real feelings about it if the Argies got the Falklands back, as long as it was by talking.
 




amexee

New member
Jun 19, 2011
979
haywards heath
Wait and see what happens if they strike oil which they're doing test drills down there at the moment. If they do strike it then it will kick off again.

lol, have to love the lack of current knowledge and the ability to comment on it!

Rockhopper have already found 500 million+ barrels
 




Superphil

Dismember
Jul 7, 2003
25,928
In a pile of football shirts
u prick i was one who went, and this weekend i will remember 3 very good and close friends who where killed and whose body's still remain on that barren piece of land that was and still is British

Sorry, my point may have been missed, I was referring to the fact that we have no say in this, decisions are taken at diplomatic level, regardless of what the general public think. I am 100% supportive and sympathetic, the Falkands are British, the Argentinians should stay well away. Let's hope the British government continues to see it that way.

Oh, and sorry if my comment caused any offence, it wasn't meant that way. as somebody from a military upbringing I could never be more than 100% behind what our military is asked to do.
 


Gregory2Smith1

J'les aurai!
Sep 21, 2011
5,476
Auch
the people there are british,speak english,they were invaded by argentian troops and we lost british lives over it,what have we got to be sorry about?
 


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