[Albion] Apparently 8th place "still gets Europe", if...

[Triggaaar]

Villa to beat United - a draw will do
Forest to beat Chelsea
Us get atleast a point to Spurs - or Brentford don't beat Wolves
Chelsea to win the conference league

Edited for accuracy (I think)

and an alternative:
If we get a point to Spurs - or Brentford don't beat Wolves
AND
City get deducted 14+ points

 

[kevo]

I've simplyfied it here
(IF Chelsea lose at Forest
AND
Man City pick up 1 point against Bournemouth H or Fulham A
AND
Villa pick up 1 point against Man Utd A
AND
Newcastle don't lose by more than 2 to Everton H)
AND
(Brighton win draw at Spurs
OR
(Brentford fail to win at Wolves
AND
Bournemouth fail to beat both Man City or Leicester))
AND
Chelsea win the UCoL
I'd be interested to know what odds there are for all those results coming in.

Newcastle result is irrelevant.

If Chelsea lose and Newcastle also lose but by a much bigger margin and finish below Chelsea in 7th, 8th would still qualify for the Conference.

 

[Moshe Gariani]

Forest will be up for it on Sunday. Home advantage and the reality of knowing they need to win the game for Champions League football. (As a draw won’t do them)

The City ground will be rocking and I really fancy them.

Villa getting something at Old Trafford is a given and United have absolutely nothing to play for.

I agree with you that it feels like both of these two results going our way is quite possible.

Industry experts judge it objectively, however, to be only about 25% probable...

The odds on doubles and accumulators multiply upwards for good reason. Your nightmare scenario of us getting very close, but one "surprise" scuppering it, is a clear and present danger.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

If someone could be kind enough to keep us simpletons updated as to what’s needed step by step I’d really, really appreciate it. So we need City to win tonight? What happens if it’s a draw? Sorry but I just can’t keep up with this stuff, I’m a proper thicko.

In the league:

For us to finish 8th we need to not lose at spurs or if we do lose for Brentford not to win away at Wolves.

Then we need Villa to get a point at man utd and the big one is Forest beating chelsea.

Finally Chelsea to win the europa conference league.

all of those results seem perfectly achievable. whether they'll all happen is the big question.

 

[Albion 4ever]

In all likelihood, Chelsea are going to need to beat Nottingham Forest to secure Champions League football for themselves as Aston Villa will fancy their chances of beating a tired and poor Manchester United.
Forest must win to have any chance of getting into the Champions League, but no pressure on them as they have guaranteed European football of some sort already.
I think it plays into Forest’s hands.

 

[Mustafa II]

Industry experts judge it objectively, however, to be only about 25% probable...

They had it as 10% the other day.

 

[Triggaaar]

Villa getting something at Old Trafford is a given and United have absolutely nothing to play for.

You'd hope so, but Amorim hasn't made the job his yet, so he'll take it very seriously.

I still think our best chance is finishing 8th, and City getting a points deduction.

 

[JJ McClure]

You'd hope so, but Amorim hasn't made the job his yet, so he'll take it very seriously.

I still think our best chance is finishing 8th, and City getting a points deduction.

A nice 30 point deduction and they can finish down along with Spurs and Man Utd.

 

[peterward]

In the league:

For us to finish 8th we need to not lose at spurs or if we do lose for Brentford not to win away at Wolves.

Then we need Villa to get a point at man utd and the big one is Forest beating chelsea.

Finally Chelsea to win the europa conference league.

all of those results seem perfectly achievable. whether they'll all happen is the big question.

And to even get here today.

Forest had to beat West Ham. They did.
Fulham needed a result v Brentford. They won.
We needed a result v Liverpool. We won.
We needed city to get a result v Muff. They won.

4 down, 4 to go!

Certainly adds a bit of drama

 

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

Could you imagine if this happened:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-20/crystal-palace-risks-missing-out-playing-in-europe-next-season?utm_source=website&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=twitter?sref=Xka7aNox&embedded-checkout=true

 

[peterward]

Could you imagine if this happened:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-20/crystal-palace-risks-missing-out-playing-in-europe-next-season?utm_source=website&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=twitter?sref=Xka7aNox&embedded-checkout=true

Non paywalled

https://archive.ph/gIA8g

 

[peterward]

Non paywalled

https://archive.ph/gIA8g

Oh f*** yes.

I'm sure they'll find a way around it, but could you imagine if they got banned and their place went to next in league!

 

[BrickTamland]

Non paywalled

https://archive.ph/gIA8g

Surely that can’t be the case? They’d be a way around that no doubt. Would be hilarious though

 

[BadFish]

They shouldn't be able to dangle this in this manner.

This would be too funny

 

[Cornith]

Its the hope that kills us but that's why we support this team. I have confidence that all these variables will work in our favour, the football gods owe us something this season.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

So we are all PSG fans on Saturday then.

If Palace are banned does their place go back into the Premier League? Wouldn't that be sweet.

 

[Napper]

And to even get here today.

Forest had to beat West Ham. They did.
Fulham needed a result v Brentford. They won.
We needed a result v Liverpool. We won.
We needed city to get a result v Muff. They won.

4 down, 4 to go!

Certainly adds a bit of drama

out of those 4 , we actually only need 3/4 games being draws (if chelsea win pens) so just the forest game needing a team to win .

Sounds entirely possible

 

[Uh_huh_him]

You'd hope so, but Amorim hasn't made the job his yet, so he'll take it very seriously.

I still think our best chance is finishing 8th, and City getting a points deduction.

Really?

You think The Premier League growing a pair, is more likely than the 10/1 (ish) shot of us getting into the conference league?

I can't see it myself.

 

[dangull]

In all likelihood, Chelsea are going to need to beat Nottingham Forest to secure Champions League football for themselves as Aston Villa will fancy their chances of beating a tired and poor Manchester United.
Forest must win to have any chance of getting into the Champions League, but no pressure on them as they have guaranteed European football of some sort already.
I think it plays into Forest’s hands.

Both teams will not settle for a draw in the last 20 minutes like a lot of games, so there will a good chance of a late winner.

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

Just chatgpteed it.

Oh god oh god oh god. Please dear lord above. Please make this come to pass.

Crystal Palace & Lyon – UEFA Conflict Summary

• Both clubs share ownership links via John Textor (Eagle Football Holdings).
• UEFA prohibits two clubs with shared control from competing in the same European competition (Article 5).
• Both Palace and Lyon are on track to qualify for the 2025–26 Europa League.
• UEFA’s deadline to restructure ownership/control passed in March 2025.
• Textor did not divest or reduce control in either club in time.

Why Palace will likely be excluded:

• UEFA precedent: When conflict exists, the club from the lower-ranked league or non-league route (like FA Cup) is removed.
• Lyon plays in Ligue 1, which ranks higher than Palace’s FA Cup route.
• 2023 example: AC Milan kept their spot; Toulouse (owned by same group) was banned.
• Palace’s Europa League qualification via cup win is less favoured than Lyon’s via league position.

Likely outcome:

Crystal Palace will be banned from the Europa League unless UEFA makes a surprise exception — which it has never done in similar cases.

Let me know if you want this phrased for social media or a club forum post.