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wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
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Aug 10, 2007
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To label every Liverpool supporter as being martyrs, or bin dippers, even saying they like to play the victim is totally disgusting.

And to label EVERY Liverpool supporter as being ENTIRELY blameless for what happened that day is a complete FALLACY. Those who died were innocent victims, those charging the turnstiles or trying to gain entry without tickets were not. And for those who will point to official reports stating that this did not happen, then you really are fxxking stupid. Yes, the authorities made mistakes, yes they told lies, yes The Sun truly screwed up in its coverage, but many Liverpool fans have lied about their own part in the events of that day.

The truth, the real truth, is being hidden under a barrage of emotional propaganda launched from Merseyside. It is a slow process, but as time goes by more people are beginning to raise their concerns that the true story is being suffocated.
 




Bwian

Kiss my (_!_)
Jul 14, 2003
15,898
And to label EVERY Liverpool supporter as being ENTIRELY blameless for what happened that day is a complete FALLACY. Those who died were innocent victims, those charging the turnstiles or trying to gain entry without tickets were not. And for those who will point to official reports stating that this did not happen, then you really are fxxking stupid. Yes, the authorities made mistakes, yes they told lies, yes The Sun truly screwed up in its coverage, but many Liverpool fans have lied about their own part in the events of that day.

The truth, the real truth, is being hidden under a barrage of emotional propaganda launched from Merseyside. It is a slow process, but as time goes by more people are beginning to raise their concerns that the true story is being suffocated.
We're still waiting for the 'facts'. Maybe we should get the inquest put on hold until you can get up there to let the world know what happened because you are clearly privy to information overlooked by 25 years of investigations.

Unbelievable that people like you still spout shit on a subject you clearly know feck all about.
 
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wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
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Aug 10, 2007
13,653
Melbourne
We're still waiting for the 'facts'. Maybe we should get the inquest put on hold until you can get up there to let the world know what happened?
You already have your facts, the ones that suit you. But do you believe every official report, hook, line and sinker? Like the one that stated that Sadaam Hussein could launch WMD's in 45 minutes?
 


Bwian

Kiss my (_!_)
Jul 14, 2003
15,898
You already have your facts, the ones that suit you. But do you believe every official report, hook, line and sinker? Like the one that stated that Sadaam Hussein could launch WMD's in 45 minutes?
You said you have the facts- time you shared them with the rest of the world.
 


Leighgull

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Dec 27, 2012
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You already have your facts, the ones that suit you. But do you believe every official report, hook, line and sinker? Like the one that stated that Sadaam Hussein could launch WMD's in 45 minutes?

Alright. Benefit of the doubt. Say you're right. Lets say Liverpool fans did charge the turnies, it is certainly a well used tactic on Merseyside or was, I should say,...well...so what? The police were criminally negligent in any event. Opening the gates at leppings lane was madness. They hadn't planned properly, hadn't got enough officers on duty at that end, hadn't got intelligence from the station and other routes to Hillsborogh that huge numbers were still arriving. I think you're right. Some fans turned up without tickets but so what? Is that an excuse to lie, put out false briefings, insinuate that corpses were pissed on and robbed?

What is your point exactly?
 




Seagull by the Sea

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May 22, 2013
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And to label EVERY Liverpool supporter as being ENTIRELY blameless for what happened that day is a complete FALLACY. Those who died were innocent victims, those charging the turnstiles or trying to gain entry without tickets were not. And for those who will point to official reports stating that this did not happen, then you really are fxxking stupid. Yes, the authorities made mistakes, yes they told lies, yes The Sun truly screwed up in its coverage, but many Liverpool fans have lied about their own part in the events of that day.

The truth, the real truth, is being hidden under a barrage of emotional propaganda launched from Merseyside. It is a slow process, but as time goes by more people are beginning to raise their concerns that the true story is being suffocated.

You are clearly just trying to be controversial for attention because I really don't believe that it is possible for someone to be THAT stupid....oh
 


Leighgull

New member
Dec 27, 2012
2,377
And to label EVERY Liverpool supporter as being ENTIRELY blameless for what happened that day is a complete FALLACY. Those who died were innocent victims, those charging the turnstiles or trying to gain entry without tickets were not. And for those who will point to official reports stating that this did not happen, then you really are fxxking stupid. Yes, the authorities made mistakes, yes they told lies, yes The Sun truly screwed up in its coverage, but many Liverpool fans have lied about their own part in the events of that day.

The truth, the real truth, is being hidden under a barrage of emotional propaganda launched from Merseyside. It is a slow process, but as time goes by more people are beginning to raise their concerns that the true story is being suffocated.

The real truth is contained in the hundreds of thousands of words in the enquiry reports. Some fans, bing young and exuberant, probably did arrive drunk, there's always some, some had no tickets and attempted to storm the ground but very few or none identified. All of the fans who died had tickets (being at the front, they Would i guess)

The enquiries found NO EVIDENCE of blame attributable to fans but a tissue of lies, intimidatory actions designed to exonerate senior OB, false briefings to the press designed to attack the credibility of the protesters families after the disaster...what planet are you on mate? The police failed in their duty to protect the crowd properly then lied repeatedly for years to lay blame elsewhere.

Those are the facts and you, sir, are a Bellend if you wish to re write ll of that to make a point about scousers.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
There was plenty of room for the Liverpool supporters but the police & stewards directed them to the centre via the tunnel even though the two side pens were virtually empty.
If you've ever been in the lower section of the Leppings Lane end you would realise that the tunnel is a bottleneck. Those facts are already established.

Just this week the new enquiry has found that the previous police chief warned of safety problems with that stand, but it was Duckenfield's first game in charge so he tried to cover his own backside!
 




Bwian

Kiss my (_!_)
Jul 14, 2003
15,898
You already have your facts, the ones that suit you. But do you believe every official report, hook, line and sinker? Like the one that stated that Sadaam Hussein could launch WMD's in 45 minutes?
Are you really as stupid as you are trying to convince us you are?

It is the original 'official' report that has proven itself to be a total fabrication combined with falsified evidence. It is this report that you seem to hold such faith. Clearly an 'official' report is what we should believe but only if it suits your agenda.
 


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