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Anyone going to the Downing Street Protests?



Goldstone1976

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There are quite a few myths about income tax. The highest top rate was just over 99%, during the war. It remained c90% between the end of the war and the early 70s, when the differential between earned and unearned income was introduced. The much-quoted 98% rate comprised 83% on earned income and a further 15% on unearned income. The top rate was payable on income of c£200k at today's rates.
 




KZNSeagull

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Agreed. And it brings up a question.

I don't want to be unfair on him, but is Boris likely or unlikely to also be someone with offshore investments ?

But the issue is not offshore investments per se, but whether they are being used to avoid paying UK tax. Investing offshore is a perfectly legitimate exercise providing that you are not using it to avoid paying tax.
 


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I'd also add my gripe isn't with those who actually avoid tax, it's the system. The real debate right now shouldn't be 'should Cameron resign?' (though there are clear conflicts of interest appearing) it should be 'how do we tackle tax avoidance'- I'm sure there is no easy answer but it is an issue we desperately need to tackle.

Very valid point. Cameron is silly for even thinking that any connection with an offshore investment would be acceptable to the great British public, but he does not appear to have broken any laws and frankly there are thousands of more worthy causes to protest about.
 


sparkie

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But the issue is not offshore investments per se, but whether they are being used to avoid paying UK tax. Investing offshore is a perfectly legitimate exercise providing that you are not using it to avoid paying tax.
Very true.

I assume there are reasons to have an offshore fund other than tax advantages ?
 






Dec 29, 2011
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Another sad thread. Absolute apathy from 90% of the posters. People who should be representing is are literally taking with one hand while contributing nothing with the other. Cameron went to the EU to defend tax havens, yet we're all in this together. Why is it too much to ask to have a government who want to improve the country for all it's citizens?
 


wellquickwoody

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Well the event promoter created it yesterday, I was like the third to commit to it or something stupid like that. I was working so hard to get the message out there on social media. There's a protest in Paris that has 6k protesters, next week the peoples assembly I'm London has 3k currently signed up. I think 5k is incredible
Don't forget Iceland had 10% of its electorate aswell

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alfredmizen

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Well the event promoter created it yesterday, I was like the third to commit to it or something stupid like that. I was working so hard to get the message out there on social media. There's a protest in Paris that has 6k protesters, next week the peoples assembly I'm London has 3k currently signed up. I think 5k is incredible
Don't forget Iceland had 10% of its electorate aswell

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If you worked a bit harder at improving your lot in life you might not come across as such a whiny loser.
 




amexer

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Unless for example you pay a cleaner and CEO of bank the same you will always have those that have and those that don't. In general we lucky to live in fair society. Never please everyone. I am not happy my neigbour receives over £7000 in benefit when well enough to at least clean streets. Its not going to happen but if someone gave me £100,000 and account told me if I put it abroad he could turn it into £120,000 if it was legal I am sorry I would do it. Until governments make it illegal it will always happen.
You will be amazed how generous we are with benefits health service etc then so many European countries.
Sorry nothing to protest about
 


Arthur

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Before I set off, what are we protesting about?

Why are you protesting? It's a serious question. I am genuinely interested.

What are people protesting about?

9 pages and this question still hasn't been answered. About the closest thing we've had to an answer is "because they protested in Iceland".

I'm personally delighted that the prime minister, who ever it may be, went to the best school in the country because he or she should then have had the best education the country can offer.

I also couldn't care less if he has a lot more money than me, that's just a fact of life.

I take it those of you who are heading to London today to protest will also be protesting outside Facebook, Google, Starbucks, TopShop etc etc whilst organising another protest outside Hyde Park on the 9th of July when Take That play?? No didn't think so.
 


The Antikythera Mechanism

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9 pages and this question still hasn't been answered. About the closest thing we've had to an answer is "because they protested in Iceland".

I bought some frozen ostrich steaks in Iceland and they were bloody awful, so for that reason "I'm in"!
 




n1 gull

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9 pages and this question still hasn't been answered. About the closest thing we've had to an answer is "because they protested in Iceland".

I'm personally delighted that the prime minister, who ever it may be, went to the best school in the country because he or she should then have had the best education the country can offer.

I also couldn't care less if he has a lot more money than me, that's just a fact of life.

I take it those of you who are heading to London today to protest will also be protesting outside Facebook, Google, Starbucks, TopShop etc etc whilst organising another protest outside Hyde Park on the 9th of July when Take That play?? No didn't think so.

What utter b*llocks. I didn't elect Facebook, Google etc to represent me, my country - I voted for Cameron. He has let me down by not paying his tax and that makes me angry. He didn't own up to this fact when he should've so I don't trust him any more. I therefore will take my democratic right and protest, whilst you sit behind your keyboard and slag off people who are getting involved
 


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What utter b*llocks. I didn't elect Facebook, Google etc to represent me, my country - I voted for Cameron. He has let me down by not paying his tax and that makes me angry. He didn't own up to this fact when he should've so I don't trust him any more. I therefore will take my democratic right and protest, whilst you sit behind your keyboard and slag off people who are getting involved

I'm no Tory but what tax hasn't he paid?
 


sten

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Jul 14, 2003
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What utter b*llocks. I didn't elect Facebook, Google etc to represent me, my country - I voted for Cameron. He has let me down by not paying his tax and that makes me angry. He didn't own up to this fact when he should've so I don't trust him any more. I therefore will take my democratic right and protest, whilst you sit behind your keyboard and slag off people who are getting involved

Hope you are all voting to come out the Eu in June .
 




Hampster Gull

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What utter b*llocks. I didn't elect Facebook, Google etc to represent me, my country - I voted for Cameron. He has let me down by not paying his tax and that makes me angry. He didn't own up to this fact when he should've so I don't trust him any more. I therefore will take my democratic right and protest, whilst you sit behind your keyboard and slag off people who are getting involved

Have you heard of capital gains tax allowance? Are you saying politicians should not have the allowances the rest of us are given?
 


n1 gull

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Hope you are all voting to come out the Eu in June .

I will be voting out, I have no idea who else will be? I agree with a lot of this thread that its not just Cameron its the whole system that needs to change and I hope this will be a movement for change. I have no idea why there should be off shore tax havens under British control like the British Virgin Islands unless they are for tax evasion. If we are all this together lets sort this sh1t out
 


Seagull1989

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I can't believe there are still people on here defending Cameron. What he has done is steal from our country. He and his loopholes he has created means YOU pay more tax because the elite aren't paying their fair share.

It is blatant theft but you are probably more worried about an Eastern European sending their £50 child allowance back home rather than tackling the real thieves .
 


Dick Swiveller

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I don't have a lot of money and was looking to share travel. Do Southern still have those group tickets?

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All I have taken from this thread is amazement that people are still using Blackberry phones. :eek:
 




portslade seagull

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Will the protesters be stopping off at all the embassies of countries where the leaders have actually avoided paying any tax or done something illegal .. you know real corruption?

And take in all the coffee chains and other businesses as well which actively avoid paying it as well
 


Hampster Gull

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9 pages and this question still hasn't been answered. About the closest thing we've had to an answer is "because they protested in Iceland".

I'm personally delighted that the prime minister, who ever it may be, went to the best school in the country because he or she should then have had the best education the country can offer.

I also couldn't care less if he has a lot more money than me, that's just a fact of life.

Agreed. There are many here who want to go back to politics of envy. Based on what has come out to date there is nothing here but envy
 


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