Anybody a mountaineering expert or astronaut?

[drew]

I was hoping for a mountaineer to answer

Everest has been climbed by people without oxygen.

Unlikely. No oxygen = death!!

I used to be an astronaut and a mountaineer but gave it up due to the lack of job opportunities in Sussex.

You could have got some part time work at the Half Moon in Plumpton?

 

[KZNSeagull]

I can confirm that golf balls definitely fly further at 1500 metres above sea level.

Hope that helps!

 

[brixtonA23]

Unlikely. No oxygen = death!!



You could have got some part time work at the Half Moon in Plumpton?

I love the Half Moon in Plumpton. The only pub that would serve alcohol to seven people who turn up on mopeds and have an aversion to shaving.

Anyway back to mountaineering.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_climbing_Mount_Everest

 

[brixtonA23]

I love the Half Moon in Plumpton. The only pub that would serve alcohol to seven people who turn up on mopeds and have an aversion to shaving.

Anyway back to mountaineering.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_climbing_Mount_Everest

Sorry, forgot to point out 1978 in the previous attached.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

I'd love to know how many astronauts read NSC.

 

[Kosmonaut]

I'd love to know how many astronauts read NSC.

As my username indicates, I am in fact an astronaut, happy to be of service!

 

[countryman]

I have no knowledge of either mountain climbing or space exploration so my point is purely guesswork, but surely it is not easy to carry lots of oxygen up a mountain as it would weigh a lot.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

As my username indicates, I am in fact an astronaut, happy to be of service!

So, that's one ... and counting.

 

[brixtonA23]

As my username indicates, I am in fact an astronaut, happy to be of service!

And your English is perfect, you Russian adventurer you.

 

[sully]

I have no knowledge of either mountain climbing or space exploration so my point is purely guesswork, but surely it is not easy to carry lots of oxygen up a mountain as it would weigh a lot.

That's why the lazy mountaineers get the Sherpas to carry it most of the way!

Those who have climbed with supplementary oxygen have often noted in their accounts that the equipment was heavy and unreliable (particularly in the early years of it's use). Subsequent climbers who have gone without have basically said that carrying it used up far more energy than going without, and therefore makes you slower. They mostly chose to go without supplementary oxygen in order to give themselves a better chance of summiting quickly and getting back down before the effects really kicked in. Messner, on the other hand, just thinks that all other mountaineers are "girls" if they need "assistance" such as supplementary oxygen. It's one of those "ethical" debates that just comes down to personal decisions in the end. Unless you are setting the bar for others to follow, the only person you need to justify it to is yourself.

 

[brixtonA23]

That's why the lazy mountaineers get the Sherpas to carry it most of the way!

Those who have climbed with supplementary oxygen have often noted in their accounts that the equipment was heavy and unreliable (particularly in the early years of it's use). Subsequent climbers who have gone without have basically said that carrying it used up far more energy than going without, and therefore makes you slower. They mostly chose to go without supplementary oxygen in order to give themselves a better chance of summiting quickly and getting back down before the effects really kicked in. Messner, on the other hand, just thinks that all other mountaineers are "girls" if they need "assistance" such as supplementary oxygen. It's one of those "ethical" debates that just comes down to personal decisions in the end. Unless you are setting the bar for others to follow, the only person you need to justify it to is yourself.

In the best or worse ethical debate would you cut the rope and be vilified or hang on and be pulled to your death. (Touching the Void).

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Someone I knew at work went on a Himalayan trekking holiday. While he was up there, he fell ill.

He reported back afterwards that, one night, he overheard the most worrying conversation he'd ever heard:- "Well ... if he does ... should we leave the body on the mountain or try and get him down?"

 

[brixtonA23]

In the best or worse ethical debate would you cut the rope and be vilified or hang on and be pulled to your death. (Touching the Void).

And a film that really is worth watching. The triumph of human nature in adversity.

 

[drew]

Sorry, forgot to point out 1978 in the previous attached.

Sorry, I was making the point that you need oxygen to live as opposed to taking extra oxygen with you!

 

[brixtonA23]

Sorry, I was making the point that you need oxygen to live as opposed to taking extra oxygen with you!

No worries and two sorrys in one thread. Could this be a record or are there very polite mountaineers on NSC.