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[Albion] Ange Postecoglou



jcdenton08

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I like him. There I said it. He’s alright. Rather him than Arteta.

Like many before him, he knows they’re rotten mentality wise. Mourinho said it, Conte said it, and he’s said it now.
 




kevo

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Mar 8, 2008
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I like him. There I said it. He’s alright. Rather him than Arteta.

Like many before him, he knows they’re rotten mentality wise. Mourinho said it, Conte said it, and he’s said it now.

Clubs don't have a mentality issue. Squads of players might have, but as the coach it's up to him to change that.
 


jcdenton08

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Clubs don't have a mentality issue. Squads of players might have, but as the coach it's up to him to change that.
Normally I’d agree, but it’s Spurs. They’re a meme for a reason - it just keeps happening.

Mourinho went on about imposter syndrome (in so many words) and really tried with players like Alli, Bentancur and N’Dombele but just couldn’t get through to them.

Conte got them to an excellent 4th but was always going on about the ceiling, ambition, belief.

And just last season Postecoglu had his “epiphany” that something was wrong:


“Culture” is such as massive thing and it transcends current squads/coaches and becomes a club’s DNA.
 


5Ways Gull

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I'm in the pro Ange camp. Quite refreshing to see a manager taking full responsibility for a bad result rather than make excuses e.g. match officials etc. That cock at Forest is really pissing me off.
 






FatSuperman

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Feb 25, 2016
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I like him. There I said it. He’s alright. Rather him than Arteta.

Like many before him, he knows they’re rotten mentality wise. Mourinho said it, Conte said it, and he’s said it now.

A good start at the head coach would be to never mention it at all, and instead constantly talk about how mentally strong the team is, and how they are fighters. It's the oldest trick in the book and works on toddlers, let alone adults. If everybody talks about them being chokers, they're more likely to carry on being chokers.

Obviously it's our responsibility to counter it by referring to them as chokers and Spursy at every turn.
 


jcdenton08

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A good start at the head coach would be to never mention it at all, and instead constantly talk about how mentally strong the team is, and how they are fighters. It's the oldest trick in the book and works on toddlers, let alone adults. If everybody talks about them being chokers, they're more likely to carry on being chokers.

Obviously it's our responsibility to counter it by referring to them as chokers and Spursy at every turn.
I think it’s just frustration and calling out the behaviours, what set him off was members of the existing staff and backroom team saying, within earshot of the players, that they’re essentially going to get battered in an upcoming game.

Personally, I’d make it more about “managing out” undesirables than trying to publicly shame them, but I think Ange is an emotional man and was probably - rightly - pissed off at the situation.

It’s a poisoned chalice because they truly are born to be Spursy :lol:
 










Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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I feel a tiny bit sorry for Ange (and I don't agree with the fat-shaming – a cheap, needless dig) because he's the latest in a long line of Spuds managers who have flattered to deceive there. A bit like Manchester United, it can't ALL be down to the manager – not when both clubs have had a long succession of so-called successful managers before they've got there,

Having said that, his schtick about injuries and biting at journalists' questions is a bit silly – possibly part of the pressure getting to him. And it is quite funny seeing Spuds languish in the bottom half of the table and getting turned over by club they would deem themselves superior to.

Twats :lolol:
 




Kinky Gerbil

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Hes a shit manager, he has also spent a lot of money

He is statistically the worse manager Spurs have had in the PL and he is an arrogant twat.

Conte/Jose/Mopo All managed not to be 14th in the league and given the relative spending at the time did OK - Well.
 


JBizzle

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Apr 18, 2010
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Hes a shit manager, he has also spent a lot of money

He is statistically the worse manager Spurs have had in the PL and he is an arrogant twat.

Conte/Jose/Mopo All managed not to be 14th in the league and given the relative spending at the time did OK - Well.
They also all had Harry Kane, who papered over a fair few cracks. Losing a 30-goal-a-season striker leaves a bit of a hole. Spurs replaced Kane with Solanke FFS. Hardly like for like.
 


Kinky Gerbil

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They also all had Harry Kane, who papered over a fair few cracks. Losing a 30-goal-a-season striker leaves a bit of a hole. Spurs replaced Kane with Solanke FFS. Hardly like for like.
But has a better midfield and defence than the previous managers

Defence alone

Porro/Udogie/VDV/Romero/Danso/Dragon/Spence v Dier/Sanchez/Sess/Davies/Tangana/Royal/Lenglet
 




Sussax

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Aug 31, 2012
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I feel a tiny bit sorry for Ange (and I don't agree with the fat-shaming – a cheap, needless dig) because he's the latest in a long line of Spuds managers who have flattered to deceive there. A bit like Manchester United, it can't ALL be down to the manager – not when both clubs have had a long succession of so-called successful managers before they've got there,

Having said that, his schtick about injuries and biting at journalists' questions is a bit silly – possibly part of the pressure getting to him. And it is quite funny seeing Spuds languish in the bottom half of the table and getting turned over by club they would deem themselves superior to.

Twats :lolol:
Exactly, it’s certainly not all his doing and the fat jokes aren’t needed, but his constant biting and passive aggression means he doesn’t help himself.

I can’t be asked to fail at embedding again, but there’s a video doing the rounds of him having a pop at a fan for rightfully saying ‘what was that’

 


Kinky Gerbil

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Exactly, it’s certainly not all his doing and the fat jokes aren’t needed, but his constant biting and passive aggression means he doesn’t help himself.

I can’t be asked to fail at embedding again, but there’s a video doing the rounds of him having a pop at a fan for rightfully saying ‘what was that’


4th time this season
 




Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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I feel a tiny bit sorry for Ange (and I don't agree with the fat-shaming – a cheap, needless dig) because he's the latest in a long line of Spuds managers who have flattered to deceive there.

Agree the fat comment isn't necessary, and yes Spurs are habitually crap, but they're not usually this crap. His refusal to take set-pieces seriously, and his refusal to have a plan B, are unforgiveable. You can get away with a lot when managing Celtic, because there's no competition, but he's gone from the easiest league to the hardest and believed he wouldn't have to learn.
 








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