[Albion] Ange Postecoglou

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Kinky Gerbil

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Glasner‘s 8 men behind the ball in mass defence, 3 with pace to steal counter attack wins, might be too similar to Mourinho and Nuno at Spurs?
I think he played a different style in Germany from memory, guess it's a sign of a good manager, they adjust to what they have.

In Palaces case a very good defence and attack - meh midfield
 




Weststander

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Average of approx 1.43 ppg: Extrapolated over 38 games would have seen them on 54 points and ninth instead of fourth. Not brilliant, but not terrible either.

His PL form in his last 66 games was:
23 wins
9 draws
34 losses
78 points
= 45 points per season form, despite having a €787m cost squad.
 




They don't have a history of finishing 17th either
Controversial but I’d have taken a poor league season with no relegation worries (which Spurs didn’t have) for a trophy at Brighton.
 


Kinky Gerbil

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Controversial but I’d have taken a poor league season with no relegation worries (which Spurs didn’t have) for a trophy at Brighton.
I think at one point the gap was 5 points to the bottom 3

If Spurs finished 10th and won, he wouldn't be at risk

We stank the place out for months.

Also showed he has no idea how to manage 2 games a week
 




Stato

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His PL form in his last 66 games was:
23 wins
9 draws
34 losses
78 points
= 45 points per season form, despite having a €787m cost squad.
Nobody is arguing that they haven't been awful at getting results. They have, particularly in the league this season. I'm just saying that there are metrics that suggest that they are not completely on the wrong path. His record in the league this season is definitely sackable. I don't think the decision would be given a second thought if he hadn't won a trophy. However, he's not a terrible manager. He could easily go somewhere else and have his methods be successful.
 


Seagull58

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Nobody is arguing that they haven't been awful at getting results. They have, particularly in the league this season. I'm just saying that there are metrics that suggest that they are not completely on the wrong path. His record in the league this season is definitely sackable. I don't think the decision would be given a second thought if he hadn't won a trophy. However, he's not a terrible manager. He could easily go somewhere else and have his methods be successful.
De Zerbi-lite
 


Stato

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I think he's quite like De Zerbi in that his style has very little middle ground. It succeeds dramatically or it fails dramatically. However, I'd admit that this season in the EPL he's reminded me far more of Sami Hyypia than RDZ. His Brighton team always looked like it could play decent football, but always had a basic underlying fault of balance that made it far too easy to score against the moment anything went slightly wrong.

On second thoughts, I'm probably best ignored on this type of subject. Back then, I used to go to every home game expecting that he would tweak some small things and we might hammer someone and click. He never did. We never did. :ROFLMAO:
 




Greg Bobkin

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Hope it is Frank, could start the picking apart of Brentford
Or – if it's like the departure of Potter and RDZ – maybe not...
 


The Optimist

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Controversial but I’d have taken a poor league season with no relegation worries (which Spurs didn’t have) for a trophy at Brighton.
I don’t think that’s controversial. I think most would.

But would you excuse the manager the poor league position because of the trophy win? Within reason I think we would at Brighton. But 23 points fewer than we got?
 


Madafwo

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The same people that said Manure should have sacked Ten Haag to get a replacement in for a full pre season will be saying that Big Ange should have been given a pop at the new season if he does go. Both stunk the place out, so the longer they hang around the better I'd say.
 




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If that were us and Tone, would he still be in a job ?

And that's with, what everybody agrees, is the best chairman in the league. Look at what happened to CH, having a desperate season and yet still getting a result ? You can't ignore what's in front of your eyes :shrug:
 


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Glasner‘s 8 men behind the ball in mass defence, 3 with pace to steal counter attack wins, might be too similar to Mourinho and Nuno at Spurs?
Interestingly these coaches who can arrange a solid way of playing - mainly sitting back because they don’t have such talented ball players as the opposition - rarely progress to the top clubs….. Only Mourinho….

My research is impeccable
 


CHAPPERS

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Did you listen to White & Jordan last week? Jordan, plus a Celtic caller and a Spurs caller seemed very nostalgic about Ange. Promoting a bullshit theory that Levy & Ange met last December to agree that Levy didn’t mind how many times they lost in the PL as long as Ange won the EL. For so many obvious reasons utter tosh, not least the jeopardy that at that moment it was long call to say they’d win it, plus £1.7m per PL place.
Over 3.5 million per Premier League place
 




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Controversial but I’d have taken a poor league season with no relegation worries (which Spurs didn’t have) for a trophy at Brighton.
Definitely but Ange got very very lucky. No Champions League side dropping into the Europa League ? Without that he’d be gone already……. He might still be quite soon.
 


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The same people that said Manure should have sacked Ten Haag to get a replacement in for a full pre season will be saying that Big Ange should have been given a pop at the new season if he does go. Both stunk the place out, so the longer they hang around the better I'd say.
Yep, better they start the season and sack him in October
 


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I don’t think that’s controversial. I think most would.

But would you excuse the manager the poor league position because of the trophy win? Within reason I think we would at Brighton. But 23 points fewer than we got?
We weren’t far off in 2018/19.

Finished 17th playing survival football, a lot closer to the drop than Spurs were. But also made an FA Cup semi, only losing 1-0 to City who should have had a player sent off early doors.

If a couple of things had gone our way in the semi and final, would you have sacked Hoots if he’d finished in exactly the same league position but won the FA Cup? Would Tony have?
 


Guinness Boy

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What do you reckon most Spurs fans think @Kinky Gerbil ?

For the 4-1 we were in 116 in the corner above the Pride flag which has the advantage of having the Spurs prawn sandwich brigade just above you. As we filed out they were happy clapping the imminent trophy celebrations but they didn’t look best pleased when I wished them congratulations on finishing 17th on my way out.

Basically they seemed happy and angry at the same time. Can’t really wrap my head round it.
 




The Optimist

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We weren’t far off in 2018/19.

Finished 17th playing survival football, a lot closer to the drop than Spurs were. But also made an FA Cup semi, only losing 1-0 to City who should have had a player sent off early doors.

If a couple of things had gone our way in the semi and final, would you have sacked Hoots if he’d finished in exactly the same league position but won the FA Cup? Would Tony have?
That’s a tough one. We weren’t the team we are now back then, so 17th and an FA Cup would have been an incredible season really.
 


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We weren’t far off in 2018/19.

Finished 17th playing survival football, a lot closer to the drop than Spurs were. But also made an FA Cup semi, only losing 1-0 to City who should have had a player sent off early doors.

If a couple of things had gone our way in the semi and final, would you have sacked Hoots if he’d finished in exactly the same league position but won the FA Cup? Would Tony have?

Relative to CH’s budget, the Spurs spend is huge, Ange had a stack of players costing €30m to €65m to play with even with injuries. Yet even Ipswich and Leicester won at WHL.
 


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