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America to reinstate Military drafting



REDLAND

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Jul 7, 2003
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At the foot of the downs
Reinstatement of the draft is imminent, war correspondent and author Christopher Hedges told a crowd of more than 120 students and residents yesterday at Manhattanville College.

"We are losing the war in Iraq very badly, but the Bush administration will not walk away from the debacle without trying to reoccupy huge swaths of the territory they have lost," Hedges said. While working for The New York Times, he covered fighting in Central America, the Balkans and the Middle East, including Iraq during the first Gulf War.

To regain territory lost in Iraq, it will take double or triple the current 140,000 troops, Hedges said during the last lecture in a series called "The Costs of War."

The reservists and National Guard members who make up half of the U.S. forces are stretched to the breaking point and need relief, he said, and the draft is the only way to assemble the numbers needed. Reintroduction of the draft will be made in the name of the war on terrorism soon after an attack in the United States or abroad, he predicted.

"The war in Iraq will no longer be an abstraction," he said. "It will become deeply personal. In the next few weeks look for shifts in administration policy leading in the direction of an escalation of the war."

Hedges encountered no detractors at Manhattanville, unlike his experience at Rockford (Ill.) College in May 2003, when he was booed off the stage while giving a commencement speech shortly after President Bush's battleship announcement that the U.S. mission in Iraq had been "accomplished."

On the contrary, many in the audience last night said they had braved rainy weather to hear Hedges indict the seductiveness of war and the dangers of mindless jingoism as an antidote to their depression over the results of the presidential election.

"It's been a hard week and there are much harder times ahead. That's why it is so important for us all to be together tonight," said Connie Hogarth, who has a peace and justice center on the Manhattanville campus named after her. "After we finish grieving, we have to get back to working for peace and justice, and an end to this war and its killing."

Hedges' audience remained rapt as he wove poetry, mythology, history and Freudian psychology with anecdotes about colleagues lost on distant battlefields and his own brushes with death. He criticized military heroic ideals that thrive during war and the way war distorts the human imagination. In the fervor of war the individual sacrifices thought for a false sense of belonging to something larger, he said.

"At the end of the Vietnam War, we became a better country in our defeat," Hedges said. "We asked questions about ourselves that we had not asked before. We were humbled, maybe even humiliated. We were forced to step outside of ourselves and look at us as others saw us. And it wasn't a pretty sight."

Those who confuse his anti-war stance with an anti-soldier position are mistaken, Hedges said. "War in the end is always about betrayal. Betrayal of the young by the old, of soldiers by politicians and idealists by cynics."
 




Cian

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Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
They already brought back mandatory registration of availability to fight a few months ago - a few of my friends with American passports got demands to register, so we went on a trip to the US embassy and handed a bag of shredded passport to the receptionist.

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Marc

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Jul 6, 2003
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"At the end of the Vietnam War, we became a better country in our defeat," Hedges said. "We asked questions about ourselves that we had not asked before. We were humbled, maybe even humiliated. We were forced to step outside of ourselves and look at us as others saw us. And it wasn't a pretty sight."

they are being humiliated now by asking the best army in the world to help out because they've screwed up so badly in Iraq. Before they were all "its ok we can do it solo and Police this country", suddenyl its "ok, UK we need your help as we're f***ing useless and have a pigmy goat for a leader!"
 


Northstander

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Oct 13, 2003
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I hate to say it but Blair will have jumped in at some stage or would have been advised to offer our help. Its all about money, business and oil, nothing else!
 








Northstander

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Oct 13, 2003
14,036
It won't happen here as it has been proved people get drafted who do not want to be there and therefore refuse to "Soldier!"

This damages morale for those that do want to be there and also our reputation as one the best Forces in the world.

So Worry not!!!

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Northstander

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Oct 13, 2003
14,036
We'd have a load of Mr MAN - WAIRINGS from the bank running the local battallion!

:lolol:
 


Commander

Arrogant Prat
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Apr 28, 2004
14,198
London
We could send Oatway over there. He'd probably be better at that.
 




The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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Wilson: I say, Bush old chap, would you be so kind as to, erm, stop this nonsense in Iraq? It's giving the world a frightful headache. Yes. Thank you so much...

Pike: My auntie's got Iraq - she keeps her books on it.

Mainwaring: Bush - you stupid boy.

Jones: Don't panic. Aaarrrgghh - alright, panic!
 
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Northstander

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Oct 13, 2003
14,036
7 Years in the RAF

been to Turkey, Italy, Germany, Ascension Island and Wales...:lolol:


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Smithers-Jones

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Mar 26, 2004
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Eltham
Charlies Shinpad said:
So did you volunteer like me?(Navy for 7 years for me)

Yup, straight from school. 2 weeks after my last exam I was in a god-forsaken northern outpost getting shouted at and beasted
 


Northstander

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Oct 13, 2003
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I joined at the Brighton Careers office dduring me lunch break whilst working at Amex straight after leaving school, I was bored stiff and just went for it!!





:lolol: :shootself :shootself
 
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Charlies Shinpad

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Jul 5, 2003
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Oakford in Devon
The Northstander said:
7 Years in the RAF

been to Turkey, Italy, Germany, Ascension Island and Wales...:lolol:


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That is 3 of us at least( plus Yorkie of course)

It just pisses me off that people are quick enough to knock our Forces and they all sit at home saying pull them out of wherever they are,but when you sign up you know what you are letting yourself in for arent you.

So stop Fcuking whinging and get behind them and support the Forces wherever they are.

If they did bring in Conscription in this Country it would be a great idea as it would sort out all these Lazy do nothing wankers who do nothing but sponge of the system:censored:

Rant over!!
 




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