[Albion] Albion mojometer

[HangletonGull]

I don't base my enjoyment of the Albion on how Crystal Palace are doing. I think that's taking this pantomime rivalry a bit far.

I'm a 10. Always a 10. It's because it's the Albion and they've been a part of my life. Some of the best times I had were when they weren't very good. That's because it never really depended on those. That's not the way I want my emotions to roll. They're part of my life and they always will be. And I've met a lot of great folk along the way and probably have more to meet.

Always a ten. Lost to Palace, still a ten. No Balti pies next time I'm at the AMEX ? Okay, may need to reconsider. If we qualify for Europe, then it's an 11.

I’ve known you many many years but that is complete and utter bollocks I’m sorry to say , this week going to games (went to all 3 ) as been nothing short of being a disaster, last Saturday losing a game which would of taken us to Wembley, Wednesday night my daughter being terrified at a football match and losing , and today them doing a double over us for the 2st time since 1930

 

[portlock seagull]

A small provincial club playing in Europe for the first time in the club's history?

Again: tough crowd.

The FA Cup this season was arguably the best chance we've ever had to win something, but it was still far from a gimme. We'd already beaten two clubs challenging for Champions League qualification and ultimately succumbed to a third on penalties.

It's disappointing, particularly given the two results we've had since, but we're massively odds against at winning all competitions we enter - the same as every other club our size. Crystal Palace's trophy cabinet will be as equally unimpressive as our own.

In 124 years we’ve won feek all. In same time you can point to dozens of same sized clubs or even smaller that have actually won something meaningful. Even Palace have been to 2 finals to our one. They even won a Mickey Mouse, we haven’t even done that. Plus finished 2nd or 3rd can’t remember which and only didn’t get into Europe because of Scouse hooligans. Anyway, reason I’m part of the tough crowd is because I want us to win something and getting tired of endless excuses amongst our fanbase who I consider part of the problem. We’re the Neville Chamberlain of football teams. Well liked and throughly decent, but ultimately weak and particularly rubbish at dealing with bullies. We are most certainly provincial in that sense, you’re not wrong there. We’ve won the ‘Excuses Cup’ many times, and the ‘Yes, But’ Shield. Yet major success, just once in 124 years we’ve not had. And after the last three games it’s clearly all over bar the shouting for another season. Then the asset stripping begins again, and we’ll see if there’s any more rabbits in the hat and go again. Be lovely to have got into Europe again or win that elusive cup though wouldn’t it?

 

[HangletonGull]

What could’ve improved that? Defensive signings in the last windows?

I don’t know and at 00.08 on Sunday morning I couldn’t give a toss all I know is this week as been disastrous

 

[Eeyore]

Anyone happy tonight isn’t a true Brighton fan. It can’t mean that much so I’ll put you down as a plastic, likely not hungry for success because you supported Chelsea or the like. This week was pivotal and we literally scored nil point. And for extra humiliation we lost to our rivals who were down to 9 men, and did the double over us for the first time in 100 years so yep, I’m not happy.

I don't think it's fair to alienate folk because they process their emotions differently to you. I've been an Albion supporter for 49 years, and I'm quite content tonight.

I have a simple rule that has been in place for some time. I once said to myself that if Albion (or indeed the teams listed in my signature below) lost a match, or missed out on something, I can have half an hour in the doldrums. No longer. The reason why I have this rule is twofold. Firstly, we only get three score years and ten in this life, some a lot less, some a lot more, and I'm not going to start crying and getting moody (which in turn affects others) about twenty two men kicking a bag of air around a patch of grass. Players who are mostly mercenary and committed for as long as a better option and wage isn't available. There are far more important things I should trouble myself over.

But the most important thing is that the football at the Albion is almost secondary to being part of the Albion experience. And those memories will always remain. I'm in it because it has become an integral part of my life in so many ways, regardless of results. But I'm also in it because I love all that's good about the community that surrounds the club as whole. And a defeat, or a victory, doesn't change any of that.

That's how I see it, perhaps not how everyone else sees it. But it certainly stops negative emotions from surfacing for long which I see as a harmful and erosive thing. I want to feel sad at things that really affect me. Not things I choose to voluntarily affect me. I allow myself to be overjoyed at Albion successes, but I won't get down if it doesn't happen.

 

[portlock seagull]

Go and do something you enjoy with people who make you happy. It is far better than arguing to toss with me over the definition of a project and whether I am a true fan because I am not considering my own mortality because the best iteration of my football team I have ever seen has just had a shit week.

Football makes us all happy and sad, it’s the pact we make. Definitely better things to do than split hairs, yes, I quite agree but was only doing you the courtesy of a reply. As for mortality, none of us are here forever hence we need to bloody win something “now” and not be content with “never” as we’ve been for 124 years and counting.

 

[Terry Butcher Tribute Act]

Having watched that and Wednesday it's as low as It gets. Can't believe 0 doesn't have more votes. Absolute shit show.

 

[Eeyore]

I’ve known you many many years but that is complete and utter bollocks I’m sorry to say , this week going to games (went to all 3 ) as been nothing short of being a disaster, last Saturday losing a game which would of taken us to Wembley, Wednesday night my daughter being terrified at a football match and losing , and today them doing a double over us for the 2st time since 1930

Now, that is something to get upset about.

But again, talking about our relationship, remember how at times we've chatted whilst you've been on the overnighters to away matches and I've followed the coach up on the journey tracker whilst I've been working at my home desk ? And we've joked about the places you've been going through. Then you sent the early morning pictures of the places you've been in. I don't travel like that now (as you know I once did) but that brings me such joy. It was the wider experience that connected us, not the results. It's all about that experience and the connections. That's what I love about it most. Results, yes, it's great to see the team doing well. It's what we all want. But all that is out of our hands. And because I have no control over it, I don't worry about it. That's what I'm trying to explain. It's placing my happiness into someone else's hands. I'm no longer prepared to do that. And for me, taking the view that 'what will be will be' saves a well of negative emotion that I would be voluntarily loading on myself.

 

[portlock seagull]

I don't think it's fair to alienate folk because they process their emotions differently to you. I've been an Albion supporter for 49 years, and I'm quite content tonight.

I have a simple rule that has been in place for some time. I once said to myself that if Albion (or indeed the teams listed in my signature below) lost a match, or missed out on something, I can have half an hour in the doldrums. No longer. The reason why I have this rule is twofold. Firstly, we only get three score years and ten in this life, some a lot less, some a lot more, and I'm not going to start crying and getting moody (which in turn affects others) about twenty two men kicking a bag of air around a patch of grass. Players who are mostly mercenary and committed for as long as a better option and wage isn't available. There are far more important things I should trouble myself over.

But the most important thing is that the football at the Albion is almost secondary to being part of the Albion experience. And those memories will always remain. I'm in it because it has become an integral part of my life in so many ways, regardless of results. But I'm also in it because I love all that's good about the community that surrounds the club as whole. And a defeat, or a victory, doesn't change any of that.

That's how I see it, perhaps not how everyone else sees it. But it certainly stops negative emotions from surfacing for long which I see as a harmful and erosive thing. I want to feel sad at things that really affect me. Not things I choose to voluntarily affect me. I allow myself to be overjoyed at Albion successes, but I won't get down if it doesn't happen.

So during your half an hour of doldrums tonight you were by nature of using that word, NOT happy?

 

[Charlie Livesey]

Have to admit, I feel pretty down at the moment, these past seven days have taken a toll.
The euphoria of twice in a week, ole,ole, feels like a long time ago now.

 

[Eeyore]

So during your half an hour of doldrums tonight you were by nature of using that word, NOT happy?

Interesting one. Unhappy ? I don't know if that is the word. Disappointed, probably. But it didn't really affect my overall mood. A combination of philosophical and disappointed. Perhaps a language sage might have a word for it. Disasophical. I was soon looking at the cricket. I just don't like my mood being affected by the Albion results. It'll never have any consistency and I'd lose sight of the wider experience which has been a wonderfully long one.

The only time I would say that wasn't the case was during the Archer years when the whole experience was under threat.

 

[portlock seagull]

Interesting one. Unhappy ? I don't know if that is the word. Disappointed, probably. But it didn't really affect my overall mood. A combination of philosophical and disappointed. Perhaps a language sage might have a word for it. Disasophical. I was soon looking at the cricket.

Unhappy, disappointed…same thing. Point was anyone not feeling this way is not a proper fan. You clearly are. No further questions. Case dismissed.

 

[BadFish]

Unhappy, disappointed…same thing. Point was anyone not feeling this way is not a proper fan. You clearly are. No further questions. Case dismissed.

How is that not splitting hairs going?

 

[portlock seagull]

How is that not splitting hairs going?

I’m not following you?

 

[Eeyore]

Unhappy, disappointed…same thing. Point was anyone not feeling this way is not a proper fan. You clearly are. No further questions. Case dismissed.

So I can leave the court a proper fan. That does make me happy

 

[Eeyore]

How is that not splitting hairs going?

I'm just looking for new words. I like making them up in some kind of Shakespearean way. I like Disasophical. Collins word of the year. I'll put it forward.

 

[BadFish]

Interesting one. Unhappy ? I don't know if that is the word. Disappointed, probably. But it didn't really affect my overall mood. A combination of philosophical and disappointed. Perhaps a language sage might have a word for it. Disasophical. I was soon looking at the cricket. I just don't like my mood being affected by the Albion results. It'll never have any consistency and I'd lose sight of the wider experience which has been a wonderfully long one.

The only time I would say that wasn't the case was during the Archer years when the whole experience was under threat.

Indeed, I was watching the game, safe in the knowledge that we were not going to win. I kind of hoped for a draw (especially in light of the way the game played out). While watching I did get annoyed about our propensity to be cut open on the counter attack, with our fullback so high.

I am like you though, I made the decision years ago to not allow myself to fall into despair about football (for too long). Try not to sweat what you can't change, keep an eye on the bigger picture and find the positives (I am not allowed to call it a project but TB has done alright with his long term process).

What is good about this is that football can make me incredibly happy for extended periods but rarely does it make me sad in the same way.

My pessimism for the end of the season now means that I won't be too down when it all goes wrong. Or possibly I will again be joyful if we manage to turn it around.

 

[BadFish]

I’m not following you?

I fear if I explain, we will jump down another rabbit hole.

Maybe we leave it there.

On a lighter note, my wife just said she is going to do a project outside.

I asked her what the end date was.

She told me to f*** off.

 

[Eeyore]

Indeed, I was watching the game, safe in the knowledge that we were not going to win. I kind of hoped for a draw (especially in light of the way the game played out). While watching I did get annoyed about our propensity to be cut open on the counter attack, with our fullback so high.

I am like you though, I made the decision years ago to not allow myself to fall into despair about football (for too long). Try not to sweat what you can't change, keep an eye on the bigger picture and find the positives (I am not allowed to call it a project but TB has done alright with his long term process).

What is good about this is that football can make me incredibly happy for extended periods but rarely does it make me sad in the same way.

My pessimism for the end of the season now means that I won't be too down when it all goes wrong. Or possibly I will again be joyful if we manage to turn it around.

During the match itself, I experience a plethora of emotions. I monitor my heart rate out of intrigue and even when I'm calm it's still very high. It's a fascinating study. I often asked myself why I go through it. But it's okay. I keep coming back. It's more that afterwards I don't want it to linger. At least only for a short time. But if the result is a good one, it can linger as long as it wants. I don't see that as cheating.

I think, looking deeper, it's more that I have an aversion to where disappointment and frustration leads for some folk. I get bewildered by some of the responses. NSC, talking of the wider football experience, means a lot to me. So when I see angry (and occasionally unwarranted directional outbursts) that does get me down. Some would say 'Well avoid it for a few days then'. But I wouldn't do that. But then they could argue that I am then transferring my emotions into others hands in a different way. Indeed, they would be right. Physician heal thyself.

 

[BadFish]

While we are over thinking and over analysing. I wonder if and how people have calibrated this mojometre?

For me zero has to represent the 95-97 era. Absolute despair and concern for the very existence of our club, all along side some truly woeful football. Jimmy case getting booked for being too deaf to hear the whistle at a corner springs to mind. Although with hindsight that was quite funny.

Anyway a 10 would be actually winning something so we are not there yet.

With this calibration it is hard to see is deviating much from 6,7,8,9 on the metre. Other people obviously have it calibrated differently though.

Yep, I have over thought this!!

 

[Uh_huh_him]

This week has been tough.

I think most of us realise, that the good run we had been on has been heavily influenced by the form of Giorginio and the defensive organisation that Webster has given us.

I would not be surprised to see us drop points in our next 3 and watch the season fizzle out in a similar way to last season.
If Fabian has the ability to push us on to a European finish, that would be a bigger achievement than De Zerbi's.

I hope he has it in him.
But I suspect he doesn't.

Not that yesterday's result was on him.
That was 100% down to the players.

They were shit.