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[Albion] Albion: do you know what the word means without googling it?







Whitley Bayster

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Jul 4, 2011
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Whitley Bay Tyne and Wear
I looked it up a long time ago

Its the Greek name of Britain - I think myth about the person/god who founded the country was called Albion


Edit: Just looked it up again - William Blake came up with the myth about the god, who was actually the son of Poseidon - apparently Albion had 12 sons, who obviously formed the first football team (before football was officially invented in the 90's). The names were

Hand
Hyle, Coban, Guantok, Peachey
Brereton, Slayd, Hutton, Scofield, Kox,
Kotope, Bowen.​
Corrected for you!

Edit: Just looked it up again - William Blake came up with the myth about the god, who was actually the son of Poseidon - apparently Albion had 12 sons, who obviously formed the first football team (before football was officially invented in the 90's). The names were

Ward
Ward, Ward, Ward, Ward
Ward, Ward, Ward, Ward, Ward,
Ward, Ward
 








US Seagull

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Jul 17, 2003
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There's actually a college in southeast Michigan called Albion College. It is named for the town of Albion, Michigan.

There is, apparently, an Albion in New York state too:


Holy 1990's web design!

Confusingly there's also this:


Which seems to be the same place?
 


Albion my Albion

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Anger

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Yes, it's where somebody vouches that you were with them at 3am on the night of the 17th when the Romford Barclays safe door was blown wide open.
 






Diocletian

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Feb 16, 2023
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it was King "Dioclician" of "Surrey" (Syria), who had 33 daughters, the eldest being called "Albyne". The princesses are all banished to Albion after plotting to murder their husbands, where they couple with the local demons; their offspring became a race of giants. The chronicle asserts that during the voyage Albyne entrusted the fate of the sisters to "Appolyn", which was the god of their faith. The Syrian king who was her father sounds much like a Roman emperor, though @Diocletian (3rd century) would be anachronistic, and Holinshed explains this as a bungling of the legend of Danaus and his fifty daughters who founded Argos.

So basically a regular music poster on NSC who was from Surrey (which used to be Syria) moved to Albion to set up the warehouse trading group Argos.
Impressive knowledge of History and the Classics HWT and my user name is that of the 3rd century Roman Emperor Diocletian.

I have an affinity with Split in Croatia where Diocletian lived and built a palace which is the heart of the town and where I spent many happy times over the years.

I think it’s lovelier than Dubrovnik.

Nothing to do with the word Albion and yes I wish I did own Argos.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

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Impressive knowledge of History and the Classics HWT and my user name is that of the 3rd century Roman Emperor Diocletian.

I have an affinity with Split in Croatia where Diocletian lived and built a palace which is the heart of the town and where I spent many happy times over the years.

I think it’s lovelier than Dubrovnik.

Nothing to do with the word Albion and yes I wish I did own Argos.
Wikipedia is my friend.
Still, one does need to know what to look up :wink:
 








Mellotron

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"...I believe it's an old, old wooden ship."
 


Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
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Did not know that about West Brom. Learned something today.

Think that means I can take the rest of the day off, right? And it's only just 9am. Fantastic.
Yeah, for years the story was that we'd picked 'Albion' because one of the founders of the club (John Jackson) had been involved with West Brom and thought the name was good. That was also the reason we played in stripes, because West Brom used them.

However Carder and Harris in 'SEAGULLS! The story of Brighton and Hove Albion' debunked this story. There is no evidence that Jackson, or indeed any of the founders, was involved with West Brom - and we didn't play in stripes for the first few seasons. So unless something else has come up since 1993 we'll never know why 'Albion' was chosen. ('Brighton and Hove United' was rejected as Hove FC, a separate club, objected).
 




Aug 11, 2003
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The Open Market
As Tim Carder explains in his now 32 year-old history book of the club, there are many hypotheses as to why 'Albion' was chosen for the club's suffix – The Albion Brewery, The Royal Albion Hotel, The Albion Hotel (a separate establishment), the Albion Coffee House, the precedent of WBA and their blue-and-white stripes.

None, some or all of them might be true. But the actual answer is... nobody knows for sure.
 


Hamilton

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