AirBnB - Wouldn't Happen In Germany
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I agree with this.
brightn'ove
cringe
Huge shame. Hotels are extortionate.
It would be Luftbaynbay (LÜFTBnB)
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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I only got to the second paragraph:
"The new law known as "Zweckentfremdungsverbot",
"The new law known as "Zweckentfremdungsverbot",
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
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Excellent! Anything that keeps accommodation prices in Berlin affordable for ordinary people is to be roundly
Blackadder
Brighton Bhuna Boy
"and locals have been advised to anonymously report any suspected lawbreakers".
Some things never change....
Some things never change....
nicko31
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Add the rent brake as you can see why Berlin is such as great place to be, compared to overrated overpriced London
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"and locals have been advised to anonymously report any suspected lawbreakers".
Some things never change....
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Huge shame. Hotels are extortionate.
I agree to a point. I see both sides of this argument but the AirBnB thing has got out of hand IMHO. Outsiders (German and non) are now piling into property and letting it out as the rewards are so high. Something had to be done. This will affect the lower end of the accommodation sector....a sector many of my friends use.
- Jul 17, 2003
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I totally agree with you, to many people move out of towns and cities these days for pastures new but for some reason rather than recycling their property to the local sales market which increases stock and slows value rise they let their properties out!
- Jul 17, 2003
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There should be a hefty tax levied to those who go overseas and let there homes out instead of putting them up for sale.
The Spanish
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There is, its called income tax. And then capital gains when you sell. It's covered.
Pinkie Brown
Wir Sind das Volk
The new law (which I fully agree with) applies to whole apartments in residential buildings. There are grey area's with the new law of course. Holiday lets in 'commercial properties' are exempt. Where the owner/leasee is in residence and the renter is in a "Wohngemeinschaft" (renting a room) situation, that's okay too.
AirBnB are supposedly going to the higher courts re this law. What the outcome will be, who knows?
AirBnB are supposedly going to the higher courts re this law. What the outcome will be, who knows?
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I'd like to know more about how AirBnB intend to challenge this. Do you have any details?
Pinkie Brown
Wir Sind das Volk
Wimdu are going to court in June. October has been mentioned as a potential date for AirBnB elsewhere. Seems odd - I would have thought they may have partaken in a joint action.
http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/berlin-law-hobbles-airbnb-rental-business/
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Thanks. It will be interesting to see the outcome of this challenge. German has plenty of laws protecting the public and seemingly restricting business.... from what you can put in, and call beer, to who can own a football club. My gut feeling is this won't succeed. It's also worth pointing out this law was trialled and tweaked over a 2 year period in Pankow before it was rolled out city wide.
Like you I support this.
AmexRuislip
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Not sure how this would compare, but whilst I had my time in Germany with the RAF in the 1990's, the local town of Elmpt did have a lot of privately owned houses rented out to the Brits serving out there. Obviously there was the property that had been set aside for normal military married quarters off base.
- Jul 17, 2003
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You won't pay capital gains tax in the UK if it's your main residence? Income tax lol. No I want to see landlords paying 30% say of their rent into the local authority! There is not enough stock, which forces values to climb, it's all to easy for people to go overseas and retain their properties as secure investments rather than sell them and buy if/when they return. I recon 40% of urban Brighton flats are tenant occupied rather than owned!
They have, or are planning to have, something similar in Vancouver and Whistler.
As mentioned, property gets taken off the market for long term rents, and is held for short term gains, with subsequent hike in available rents, and indeed sales of property, along with City/Council income from Hotel taxation falling, and Standards/H+S being unmonitored in these properties.
As mentioned, property gets taken off the market for long term rents, and is held for short term gains, with subsequent hike in available rents, and indeed sales of property, along with City/Council income from Hotel taxation falling, and Standards/H+S being unmonitored in these properties.