[TV] Adolescence - Netflix 4 part drama written by and starring Stephen Graham

[BN9 BHA]

drive to a home deco store and then back home, all in one flawless shot. Without a single error. It's absolutely mind blowing.

Probably not mind blowing for @Wrong-Direction as he drives down Screwfix most days in a plumbing van

 

[Justice]

Probably not mind blowing for @Wrong-Direction as he drives down Screwfix most days in a plumbing van

In my local Screwfix there is a girl who works there and she has been nicknamed shit face by the lads, mate it’s the worst attempt at fake tanning you will probably ever see

 

[medwayseagull reborn]

Really miserable tv . Pretty boring . Wouldn’t recommend

A bit like reading your posts ( taking the word tv out ).

 

[Bakero]

Watched it all today.

brilliantly done.

very harrowing.

My boy is 23 and has grown up with a lot of these influences.
He blames feminism for a lot of his challenges in the world.

He also blames my generation of men, for being weak and not guiding his generation well.

I've put my hand up to where I think he has made valid points.
But equally, I have explained to him that I have spent more time with him than my father did with me.

It's a tough one.
There are no easy answers, but we all latch on to the one that resonates best with us.

My son has more faith in Jordan Peterson's opinions than he does in mine.

Sounds like a tough situation for you. How and why does he feel like feminism holds him back?

 

[Wrong-Direction]

Yes correct.
I didn’t have a clue what the guard in the CCTV room was saying

Logistics great, acting not so great

 

[NorthstandRacoon]

One of the best drama's I've ever seen. Very very harrowing and Stephen Graham is the Best of British in the UK's cinematic/tv screen culture.

Findings of this show, though, are to ban social media for certain ages making it the law and ban phones in schools. It is getting THAT bad. Also, a bit of discipline wouldn't go amiss, too many parents are absolute wet wipes. 'My child would never do that' bollocks. I used to get whacked as a kid (obviously not abusively) and locked in then outside loo for an hour if I was bad (quite funny), never once did me harm. I was taught to respect, be polite and focus on being a good person. My parent's are the most loving kind people, who are very street wise, does my head in how backwards some parenting has gone.

This is at the kids in the school here, not so much he main character parents.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Logistics great, acting not so great

I found it difficult to watch, i liked Ashley Walters character but the female detective got on my nerves, she is a good actor but I didn’t like her character.
I also thought some of the scenes went on too long especially in the school.
I honestly didn’t think it’s as good as some people are making it out to be.

Edit- I also struggled to hear what some of the characters were saying, not sure if it was the accents, some were mumbling or just talking quietly, I had the tv up louder than usual

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Sounds like a tough situation for you. How and why does he feel like feminism holds him back?

Very much with some of the themes explored in adolescence.

He believes that feminism has changed the perception of men in society and that unless you are part of the top 20% (alphas or Chads) then you are surplus to requirements (romantically).

He has never had a girlfriend and has become accustomed to rejection.
Whilst being told online, that he needs to park his male privilege.

The concept of male privilege is very prominent within his generations feminist communities and is (in his view) an unarguable fact, for them.
Whereas his experience is precisely the opposite.

It's a frustrating experience for me, but far tougher for him.
I grew up in an era, where the dating game was significantly easier and really have no concept of what it must be really like for him.

The Jordan Petersons and Andrew Tate's of this world offer a much more compelling argument to a lot of these young men, than I do.
I suspect my son, is coming to his own realisations about how helpful these types of views actually are to him.
As the reality is that Tate and Peterson and their ilk are just in it for the clicks. They aren't providing any answers.

 

[Bakero]

Very much with some of the themes explored in adolescence.

He believes that feminism has changed the perception of men in society and that unless you are part of the top 20% (alphas or Chads) then you are surplus to requirements (romantically).

He has never had a girlfriend and has become accustomed to rejection.
Whilst being told online, that he needs to park his male privilege.

The concept of male privilege is very prominent within his generations feminist communities and is (in his view) an unarguable fact, for them.
Whereas his experience is precisely the opposite.

It's a frustrating experience for me, but far tougher for him.
I grew up in an era, where the dating game was significantly easier and really have no concept of what it must be really like for him.

The Jordan Petersons and Andrew Tate's of this world offer a much more compelling argument to a lot of these young men, than I do.
I suspect my son, is coming to his own realisations about how helpful these types of views actually are to him.
As the reality is that Tate and Peterson and their ilk are just in it for the clicks. They aren't providing any answers.

Hopefully, he snaps out of it and he realises the likes of Tate and Peterson are charlatans selling snake oil

 

[US Seagull]

Watched the first episode last night. Tense stuff. Edge of the seat. Not an easy watch by any means, but very good.

I felt for the dad as he came to the realization that actually, yeah, maybe his boy had done something awful.

 

[wilko1]

Concur with all the views, terrific drama with a really important message
Stephen Graham superb as always

A special mention to Erin Doherty, she was excellent, as she was in the West End play I saw yesterday 'the Unicorn' at the Garrick
She seemed a natural stage actor, got a big career ahead

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

May as well cancel the awards season now, nobody's going to produce anything that comes anywhere close to being as powerful as that

 

[NorthstandRacoon]

May as well cancel the awards season now, nobody's going to produce anything that comes anywhere close to being as powerful as that

Agreed.

 

[GingerBeerMan]

Very much with some of the themes explored in adolescence.

He believes that feminism has changed the perception of men in society and that unless you are part of the top 20% (alphas or Chads) then you are surplus to requirements (romantically).

He has never had a girlfriend and has become accustomed to rejection.
Whilst being told online, that he needs to park his male privilege.

The concept of male privilege is very prominent within his generations feminist communities and is (in his view) an unarguable fact, for them.
Whereas his experience is precisely the opposite.

It's a frustrating experience for me, but far tougher for him.
I grew up in an era, where the dating game was significantly easier and really have no concept of what it must be really like for him.

The Jordan Petersons and Andrew Tate's of this world offer a much more compelling argument to a lot of these young men, than I do.
I suspect my son, is coming to his own realisations about how helpful these types of views actually are to him.
As the reality is that Tate and Peterson and their ilk are just in it for the clicks. They aren't providing any answers.

I've been researching incels since watching this show. It seems like boys aged 12-15 are having the same issues as every other generation but now they're being told it's because of feminism. I never got laid when I was that age. I was a virgin. I was teased for it (ironically, as most other kids were virgins too). But we didn't label it as a feminist issue, it was just part of growing up. Now I'm much older and I see 80-90% of my male friends having casual sex regularly. It's just an age thing. If they really think only 20% of men are having casual sex they're sorely mistaken.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

I've been researching incels since watching this show. It seems like boys aged 12-15 are having the same issues as every other generation but now they're being told it's because of feminism. I never got laid when I was that age. I was a virgin. I was teased for it (ironically, as most other kids were virgins too). But we didn't label it as a feminist issue, it was just part of growing up. Now I'm much older and I see 80-90% of my male friends having casual sex regularly. It's just an age thing. If they really think only 20% of men are having casual sex they're sorely mistaken.

Yeah that's certainly true.
But my son is in a different subset.
He's 23 now and was diagnosed as high functioning autistic at a very young age.
He has never had a date, let alone a girlfriend, nor the opportunity for casual sex.

He spent most of his adolescence in a special needs school. after mainstream schooling seemed to be failing him at 11 years old.
His inherent challenges with social interactions, have been compounded by having grown up with a peer group of similarly challenged young men. and then finally finished off by lockdown, just as he had moved back into mainstream, when he joined art college.

I suspect the incels are, in truth, the bottom 20%, who are particularly drawn to the feminism argument, because it makes them feel they are part of a wider problem.

 

[Milano]

2 episodes in. Excellent so far. Our kids are never getting mobile phones.

I don't know how old your kids are, revisit this statement when they're year 6+ as the peer pressure is insane
Also you get yourself into the "its's safer to have one than not" mindset, especially if they walk/bus to school.
We locked our kids phones down until they were year 9 but this requires knowledge which not all parents have.

Social media companies and mobile network providers need to do far more but for me Apple and Android should have a built in 'kids mode' that is far simpler to use than it is currently, they don't because it doesn't suit them to, they generally leave it to 3rd party apps.

 

[dwayne]

I thought it was good.

Apart from the school scene Im not completely sure how realistic it is though. How many 12/13 year old boys would murder a young girl over getting rejected or mocked? 1 in 20 million maybe ?

All this incel / Andrew tate crap is overstated as well. Firstly he's barely posted in the last couple of years as he was under house arrest and secondly, his stuff is sexist and cringe but most of it doesn't advocate violence to women. He an attention seeker who knows he will get more publicity the more controversial he is.

 

[MattBackHome]

I thought it was good.

Apart from the school scene Im not completely sure how realistic it is though. How many 12/13 year old boys would murder a young girl over getting rejected or mocked? 1 in 20 million maybe ?

All this incel / Andrew tate crap is overstated as well. Firstly he's barely posted in the last couple of years as he was under house arrest and secondly, his stuff is sexist and cringe but most of it doesn't advocate violence to women. He an attention seeker who knows he will get more publicity the more controversial he is.

Saw your name in the replies and expected a muddled contrarian take. Dived straight in and you didn't disappoint.

 

[PascalGroß Tips]

I thought it was good.

Apart from the school scene Im not completely sure how realistic it is though. How many 12/13 year old boys would murder a young girl over getting rejected or mocked? 1 in 20 million maybe ?

All this incel / Andrew tate crap is overstated as well. Firstly he's barely posted in the last couple of years as he was under house arrest and secondly, his stuff is sexist and cringe but most of it doesn't advocate violence to women. He an attention seeker who knows he will get more publicity the more controversial he is.

Teenager sentenced to life for south London murder

Andrew Tate says women belong in the home, can’t drive, and are a man’s property. He also thinks rape victims must “bear responsibility” for their attacks

He preached a message aimed at boys and young men that women should be dominated.

 

[pigmanovich]

How many 12/13 year old boys would murder a young girl over getting rejected or mocked? 1 in 20 million maybe ?

And if that one in 20 million killed were your daughter?