Add this to the list of human rights bollocks

[KPTF]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1240691,00.html

Just what the f*** is going on? How much more of this shit do we have to put up with? Why should we taxpayers have to foot the bill for this? It should be paid by the tossers who signed us up to the human rights act in the first place.

People who are convicted of a criminal offence deemed punishable by prison should no longer be covered by any human rights legislation until they are released back into society.

THEY WAIVE GOODBYE TO THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS WHEN THEY COMMIT THE CRIME.

By committing the crime, they are making an active choice to opt out of society if convicted/incarcerated.

They may well have committed their crime as a result (or by - product) of their drug habit. In which case, making them go cold turkey might, just might help them to kick the habit and prevent re-offending.

SO IT COULD BE A GOOD THING AND MAY IMPROVE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE BACK IN SOCIETY WHICH WOULD SURELY BE A POSITIVE THING FOR THEM & SOCIETY AS A WHOLE.

Time for the human rights act to be ripped up & re-written by people with a semblence of common sense.

New Labour - what a very unfunny joke.

 

[Frutos]

What a load of bollocks (the news item, not this topic).

 

[bristolseagull]

Mate the HRA is simply a document that helps to interpret the ECHR- as a member of the EU we are obliged to protect and honour those rights identified by the convention, the HRA always gets unfairly blamed- it s NOT superior law and can be repealed/amended as any other Act can,

the convention is the document that protects HR and has been around since 1951, the problem with the HRA is judges inexperience at interpreting it.

 

[Wardy]

What is worse is that the government backed down and settled out of court. Most other EU countries do not allow methadone for prisoners so why should we?

 

[KPTF]

Mate the HRA is simply a document that helps to interpret the ECHR- as a member of the EU we are obliged to protect and honour those rights identified by the convention, the HRA always gets unfairly blamed- it s NOT superior law and can be repealed/amended as any other Act can,

Then the sooner we're away from that shower of shit & revert to making and implementiing our own laws, the better.

 

[bristolseagull]

Then the sooner we're away from that shower of shit & revert to making and implementiing our own laws, the better.

You think?

and allow our govenment to determin the status of our human rights?

wouldnt trust current OR future govenment-

look at the recent terror laws! we'd be f***ed.

 

[Commander]

Absolutely f***ing ridiculous. Bet they enjoyed their £3,750 worth of smack each.

 

[bhaexpress]

Actually prisons don't tend to give much if anything in the way of withdrawal treatment to prisoners. Whilst I don't condone drug taking its a sad fact of life that being an addict is not a simple matter of saying no.

Having said that though what purpose is being served compensating criminals who are ultimately the architects of their own misfortune. I wonder what sort of compensation their victims got ?

Rather than paying convicted criminals the money should have been put towards schemes that combat drug abuse. There's no shortage of illegal drugs in prison please note.

 

[KPTF]

You think?

and allow our govenment to determin the status of our human rights?

wouldnt trust current OR future govenment-

look at the recent terror laws! we'd be f***ed.

Mate, I trust our current government as far as I can throw them but at least they're accountable for their actions to the people of this country who can do something about it (remove them, demonstrate against them, etc). Whilst we do have electable MEP's, that means jack-shit in the Brussels-scheme of things as there's even less accountability there and little or no correlation between what Brussels decides and how we as the British public can respond to it or successfully demonstrate against it to change things.

 

[readingstockport]

Mate, I trust our current government as far as I can throw them but at least they're accountable for their actions to the people of this country who can do something about it (remove them, demonstrate against them, etc). Whilst we do have electable MEP's, that means jack-shit in the Brussels-scheme of things as there's even less accountability there and little or no correlation between what Brussels decides and how we as the British public can respond to it or successfully demonstrate against it to change things.

Absolute bollocks. Who the f*** is holding the accountable for taking this country to war on the basis of lies? The EU is at least as accountable as bliar is right now. FFS he's today giving evidence to a US enquiry, something he refuses to do to a UK one.

 

[Commander]

Actually prisons don't tend to give much if anything in the way of withdrawal treatment to prisoners. Whilst I don't condone drug taking its a sad fact of life that being an addict is not a simple matter of saying no.

That is undisputable, but that doesn't mean they should be paying money out to addicts as compensation!

Which, I realise, was actually what you were saying anyway.

 

[bhaexpress]

That is undisputable, but that doesn't mean they should be paying money out to addicts as compensation!

Which, I realise, was actually what you were saying anyway.

Yes I was trying to put both points of view, I have seen somebody going cold turkey and its not pretty. To call it assault though beggers belief however. These people would have had the same thing happen on the outside had they not been able to feed their habit and in order to do that they would have had to commit a crime which would invariably mean that an innocent party would have suffered.

Whilst going cold turkey is highly unpleasant its not fatal and perhaps the horrors of it might persuade the addict to stay off drugs. Sometimes it works.

Its a travesty and rather makes a mockery of British justice though.

 

[KPTF]

Absolute bollocks. Who the f*** is holding the accountable for taking this country to war on the basis of lies? The EU is at least as accountable as bliar is right now. FFS he's today giving evidence to a US enquiry, something he refuses to do to a UK one.

Can't argue with that but, through our ballot box (and media), we do have the capability to do something about it (albeit in the future when the tosser is spending more time up Cliff Richard's bottom than is healthy for either of them). Short of some kind of military backed coup, how would you make Blair accountable right now?