Accident - A27

[Barry Izbak]

The A23 is a car park this morning

And at 9.05 driving back west from Sussex Uni I saw a lorry upside down over on the eastbound. People running about. Dialled 999 and have seen the old bill and ambulances shooting up there.

Fingers crossed for all

 

[cardboard]

A fatal crash led to major tailbacks on the M23 this morning.

The accident happened on the northbound carriageway between Pease Pottage and Crawley shortly before 5am.

Early police reports say only one car was involved in the accident but the whole of the northbound carriageway will stay closed for several hours.

advertisementOne lane of the southbound carriageway was also closed as police and ambulance crews dealt with the scene.

The accident caused tailbacks of up to ten miles back through Handcross and Warninglid as drivers were diverted off the M23 at Pease Pottage and allowed back on at the Gatwick junction.

Police this morning advised drivers to try and find alternative routes if possible or allow longer times for their journey.

8:23am today

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Also A23/M23 just north of Pease Pottage shut this morning.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

Finally gave up trying to get to Essex after nearly four hours of fart arsing about.

if you dont have to dont.

 

[REDLAND]

3 hours Brighton to Gatwick this morning

:notHappy:

 

[Dave the OAP]

left home at 7:45, went on A23 to A272, up A24 and on to M25. then on to hounslow....traffic horrendous

got here 20 minutes ago

Normally takes me about 1 and half hours

 

[Perry Milkins]

left home at 7:45, went on A23 to A272, up A24 and on to M25. then on to hounslow....traffic horrendous

got here 20 minutes ago

Normally takes me about 1 and half hours

Brilliant place for Indian food....you can get some excellent pickles and curry pastes in the stores there. Look out for the Brand name 'Ferns'.

You have not been charged for this advice.

 

[Mr Blobby]

Arrests following fatal M23 crash
A young man and woman have been arrested after people were seen running away from the scene of a motorway crash which killed another person.
Sussex Police said a Mini had collided with the central reservation on the M23 and come to rest on the hard shoulder. A young man in the vehicle died.

The arrested pair are in custody, while another young man was said to be in a serious condition in hospital.

The single-vehicle crash happened on the M23 northbound near Crawley.

There were prolonged lane closures between junctions 11 and 10, Pease Pottage and Crawley, as well as disruption to the southbound carriageway while police investigated the scene.

Officers are appealing for witnesses to the incident, which took place just before 0500 BST on Tuesday.

 

[goldstone]

If the accident happened before 5am, then the latest they should have had the road reopened is 7am. How long can it take to clear a car and a body from the road? Bloody police just like to screw up people's lives.

 

[Easy 10]

If there has been a death and the police have made arrests, then its not just a case of clearing up the mess and re-opening the carriageway. Presumably accident investigators are on the scene collecting evidence that could lead to a prosecution.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

If the accident happened before 5am, then the latest they should have had the road reopened is 7am. How long can it take to clear a car and a body from the road? Bloody police just like to screw up people's lives.

Hmmm. I'd like to think that comment was a bit of fishing for a reaction, and not your real thoughts on the matter. But just in case you really think that: you are a tool.

If one of your family had died, what would you prefer?

That the police carried out a thorough investigation, to determine whether any crime had been committed, to secure evidence to perhaps ensure the conviction of the person responsible, or at the very least to establish why your relative had been left in a thousand pieces all over the motorway, and what could be done to prevent such tragedy in future?

Or would you rather they thought "bugger that, let's get it tidied up as quickly as possible, because we can't have the commuters being late for work can we?"

Screw up people's lives? Well done. Because you being slightly late for a meeting is really "screwed up", isn't it, in the grand scheme of things? As opposed to the family, somewhere, who now have to bury a loved one next week.

 

[goldstone]

Hmmm. I'd like to think that comment was a bit of fishing for a reaction, and not your real thoughts on the matter. But just in case you really think that: you are a tool.

If one of your family had died, what would you prefer?

That the police carried out a thorough investigation, to determine whether any crime had been committed, to secure evidence to perhaps ensure the conviction of the person responsible, or at the very least to establish why your relative had been left in a thousand pieces all over the motorway, and what could be done to prevent such tragedy in future?

Or would you rather they thought "bugger that, let's get it tidied up as quickly as possible, because we can't have the commuters being late for work can we?"

Screw up people's lives? Well done. Because you being slightly late for a meeting is really "screwed up", isn't it, in the grand scheme of things? As opposed to the family, somewhere, who now have to bury a loved one next week.

If one of my family had died I can assure you I would have supported the latter. A quick clean up and minimise the inconvenience. Messing up thousands of people's lives isn't going to bring anyone back.

 

[Nibble]

If one of my family had died I can assure you I would have supported the latter. A quick clean up and minimise the inconvenience. Messing up thousands of people's lives isn't going to bring anyone back.

No but it migt help to sort out who killed your loved one. So you would honestly like a copper to come to your front door, inform you your son has been killed but in order that Mr Smith has to get to his office we can't be bothered to figure out who offed him. Ta ta!

DEEEK.

 

[Easy 10]

UNbelievable

 

[Bry Nylon]

A quick clean up and minimise the inconvenience. Messing up thousands of people's lives isn't going to bring anyone back.

Quite often, the casualty(s) aren't declared dead at the scene, and are stabilised in the vehicle by paramedics, whilst fire crews cut them out. I suppose we could just slip a rope around their waist and haul them up through the sunroof, but I suspect that wouldn't be acceptable to most. Afterall, alot of cars don't even have sunroofs, so that idea is a bit of a non-starter, really.

Even when a person has been declared dead by a qualified professional, or it is perfectly apparent that all life is extinct, nothing can be touched until the police have concluded their investigations, and that in my veiw is exactly hwo it should be.

Finally, I'm not quite sure what you imagine the scene of a fatal road traffic collison actually looks like, but it is not always as straightforward as simply opening the car door, saying "yeah - he's dead," and popping the corpse into a bodybag. Sorry you were late for work, but I guess the dead guy would willingly swap places with you right now.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

The unreliability of the road system, eh?

And people complain about trains being SIX MINUTES LATE.

 

[Nibble]

Quite often, the casualty(s) aren't declared dead at the scene, and are stabilised in the vehicle by paramedics, whilst fire crews cut them out. I suppose we could just slip a rope around their waist and haul them up through the sunroof, but I suspect that wouldn't be acceptable to most. Afterall, alot of cars don't even have sunroofs, so that idea is a bit of a non-starter, really.

Even when a person has been declared dead by a qualified professional, or it is perfectly apparent that all life is extinct, nothing can be touched until the police have concluded their investigations, and that in my veiw is exactly hwo it should be.

Finally, I'm not quite sure what you imagine the scene of a fatal road traffic collison actually looks like, but it is not always as straightforward as simply opening the car door, saying "yeah - he's dead," and popping the corpse into a bodybag. Sorry you were late for work, but I guess the dead guy would willingly swap places with you right now.

well said.

 

[Buzzer]

The unreliability of the road system, eh?

And people complain about trains being SIX MINUTES LATE.

15 minutes late this morning. Signalling probs at Haywards Heath apparently. No great shakes as I slept through it anyway. Can't believe some people on this board. Surely it's better to travel late safely than to arrive early in a body bag?

 

[Woodchip]

No but it migt help to sort out who killed your loved one. So you would honestly like a copper to come to your front door, inform you your son has been killed but in order that Mr Smith has to get to his office we can't be bothered to figure out who offed him. Ta ta!

DEEEK.

So eloquantely (sp?) put. Total agree with the sentiment though.

 

[Woodchip]

15 minutes late this morning. Signalling probs at Haywards Heath apparently. No great shakes as I slept through it anyway. Can't believe some people on this board. Surely it's better to travel late safely than to arrive early in a body bag?

Surely that should be "never arrive at all".