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South Stand Zealot

New member
Jul 8, 2003
222
Haywards Heath
There are many Albion fans who either can't get to matches to buy a programme or who go to matches but chose not to buy one.

This is what the Editor said in Albion's programme for Saturday 17th December's match v Stoke just in case you never read it or have forgotten !!!

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"Unfair and unbalanced

On Saturday's BBC Southern Counties phone-in, host Ian Hart spent much of his show calling for "truth and honesty" from the club about the financial situation. "Just give us a figure," he demanded, with a zeal reminiscent of the war-footing stand-off between the club and fans over eight years ago.

On 10th September the club launched the Alive & Kicking Appeal, in an attempt to raise over £2m to help stabilise the club's difficult finacial position - which, as explained back then, has been brought about by the restrictions of Withdean and continual delays on the Falmer outcome.

The club have been open and honest about the whole situation - nevertheless the them-and-us mentality stoked up by Hart has even led to callers to the show accusing the club's directors of being "liars" and of pocketing the money (to which Hart offers no defence, irresponsible, at least, coming from the BBC).

In fact it's quite outrageous when you consider that the current directors and shareholders have invested over £7m since the Board took over the running of the club; money they wouldn't see again should the unthinkable happen.

When we launched Alive & Kicking we didn't know what response to expect, but desperate situations bring out the best in people. With great understanding supporters so far have contributed over £240,000 - a magnificent effort and we thank everyone personally - but that still leaves a big shortfall against our £2m deficit.

Part of that hole has been filled by the sale of Darren Currie to Ipswich and it will be filled further by the receipts from our FA Cup third round tie with Tottenham. The Albion's survival is the ultimate priority and we as a club are still looking at ways to ensure that.

Ian Hart also said, " I know there are possible other people who are rumoured to want to invest .... people with significant funds." As we've said many, many times before we would love to hear from them.

Get them to give us a call, Ian!"

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I wonder if Hart ever did !

I suspect not because he, as his comment inferred, is more than happy to rumour munger. Not helpful to the Albion's cause at this precarious time in the club's history.

Last week The Argus repeated a story more or less written by Paul Hayward of the Daily Telegraph which basically said that by being at Withdean, and not at Falmer, the Albion had missed out on £30m of revenue.

Hart then said to Martin Perry, "According to The Argus the Albion have lost £30m. Careless, don't you think ?"

Fortunately MP was able to put right this dumbo straightaway (Hart had never even read the article !!!).

For how much longer are we going to suffer this man as presenter of OUR programme?

Some say switch off if you don't like it. I don't like it but I do want to see someone who is less Jack-the-Lad, and can present the programme in a professional way rather than an imitation bar-side chat.

The programme was a rare opportunity for fans to have their say. It isn't anymore. Hart shanghais most programmes with an agenda of his own designed to be controversial.

And this ego-maniac wants to be controversial. Why ? He doesn't have to be. He's got a ready made audience that doesn't need boosting. Or didn't.

I am so brassed off with his immature comments, and equally browned off by his one brain celled supporters (for example Ben's Grandad, friend of Jackie Charlton) that I have indeed stopped listening.

Clearly I sit in the South Stand. I have often asked my chums there what they think of the show. No answer. They don't listen any more.

Just a few years ago the programme slumped to such depths that no one was phoning in. How do I know that ? Because SCR rang me up and asked me to take part !!!

It is now time. long overdue, for the BBC to dispense with Hart's services. He may be an Albion supporter but on too many occasions now his quest for controversy has become dangerous to the Albion's health. I know from many threads that there are also many fans who think as I do.

It is time Mr Hart for you to say "GOODBYE", and rest your laurels, such as they are, alongside the corpse of your extinct fanszine. Remember ? The one that got you in to so much doo-doo.

I would welcome supportive comments although clearly sychophants like Ben's Grandad (poor Ben) will no doubt try to rise to the occasion.

For your benefit BG, just thought you might like to know that name dropping can seriously backfire on you. ... Edited by moderators ...


:wave:

In the meantime could someone-else please ask Ian Hart to just :shutup:

SHORT QUESTION

Should Hart stay on ?

If "Yes", then WHY ?

:smokin:
 
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Yorkie

Sussex born and bred
Jul 5, 2003
32,367
dahn sarf
Yes but please check facts before bringing up subjects for discussions.
 


South Stand Zealot

New member
Jul 8, 2003
222
Haywards Heath
Yorkie

I quoted exactly and directly from the club's programme. Check it out for yourself !

And a very reputable source told me he used the word "CARELESS".

So what else should I check first ?

HART MUST GO - NOW !!!!!!!

Ian Hart :wave: please !!!

>>>>> A plea to BBC SCR

>>>>>:shutup: IAN HART NOW !!!!!!!!!!!

:smokin:
 


Yorkie

Sussex born and bred
Jul 5, 2003
32,367
dahn sarf
South Stand Zealot said:
Yorkie

I quoted exactly and directly from the club's programme. Check it out for yourself !

And a very reputable source told me he used the word "CARELESS".

So what else should I check first ?





NOOOOOOO You've misread my post

Yes to Harty staying but Harty must check his facts before starting discussions.

Apologies for not making my reply clear.
 




South Stand Zealot

New member
Jul 8, 2003
222
Haywards Heath
Moya. Very easy to misread that one.

The Grandfather of Ben (Jackie Charlton's other friend) would I am sure be only too pleased to coach you in the advanced use of the English langwidge.



HART MUST GO - NOW !!!!!!!!!

:smokin:
 


Jam The Man

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
8,319
South East North Lancing
Hart must stay - you don't have to listen if you don't want to. Have you phoned in often? Put your money where your mouth is.
 


Can I just be a fence-sitting liberal and say "Hart must stay, but he needs help". As Lush said last week, he needs a co-presenter, Budgie would be great or someone of his ilk - I think it would solve all the current problems of the show. It would free Harty to be as outspoken as he wants, because there would always be someone else there to provide the balance that listeners want. It's a perfect solution.
 




Yorkie

Sussex born and bred
Jul 5, 2003
32,367
dahn sarf
Lush would be a great person to have on with Harty
 


It would be funny to see Harty carry her out of hospitality every week to get the show started.
 


BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
London Irish said:
Can I just be a fence-sitting liberal and say "Hart must stay, but he needs help". As Lush said last week, he needs a co-presenter, Budgie would be great or someone of his ilk - I think it would solve all the current problems of the show. It would free Harty to be as outspoken as he wants, because there would always be someone else there to provide the balance that listeners want. It's a perfect solution.

I personally do not like Budgie's phone in, when he has done it, as it lacks passion but then I am only one voice.
 






BensGrandad said:
I personally do not like Budgie's phone in, when he has done it, as it lacks passion but then I am only one voice.

You'd have Harty for that, though. With Budgie you'd get the level-headed comments, the analysis of the game, the ying to Harty's yang.
 








rool

Well-known member
Jul 10, 2003
6,031
Harty is falling into the same trap that Paul Camillin did for a while, which is getting involved in handbags at six paces on a public medium. He needs to detach himself from all this and just ignore it and get on. PC did it and has much more respect as a result.

That said why do you lot think NSC is such a big player in the opinions of the average albion fan?. I think your ideas of how important you are individually and collectively are way over the top and misguided.

Personally I love the phone in and am grateful that SCR have any albion coverage at all. As someone who can only get to one or two games a year it gives me great pleasure and it would be sad for it to go.
 


South Stand Zealot

New member
Jul 8, 2003
222
Haywards Heath
Message for Jam the Man

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Have I ever spoken on the Phone-In ?

Yes. Frequently, but not anymore!

I go back a long time.

I'm boycotting the "Ian Hart Show" until it becomes "The Fans' Phone-in" once again with a much superior presenter.

Also for your information SCR have actually phoned me up to ask for my contributions - clearly they value my opinions unlike some morons on here.

Grandfather of Ben won't believe that of course but he's only got one brain cell. ( Whoops - sorry. One voice! (Thank God !))



HART MUST GO - NOW !!!!!


:wave:

:smokin:
 


rool

Well-known member
Jul 10, 2003
6,031
Does anyone think SSZ might have been bullied at school by harty? :lolol:
 




South Stand Zealot

New member
Jul 8, 2003
222
Haywards Heath
No one bullied me at school. Nor did I bully anyone either.

Unethical.

Anyway he could never have been at my school. He'd never have passed the entrance exam.

(A bit more difficult than Grandfather of Ben's coaching course. That doesn't say a lot for Jackie Charlton, or does it, that BG got better marks.)





BBC - ARE YOU LISTENING ?

IAN HART MUST GO - NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!



:wave:

:smokin:
 


sullyupthewing

New member
Jul 5, 2003
1,644
brighton and worthing
I have heard you on the phone in SSZ, I must say I did enjoy what you had to say the best part was when you finished.
Do the phone in yourself and bore the arse off of all of us.
 


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