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Jul 5, 2003
23,777
Polegate
Just a few things....

1) Slade. So the table isn't looking good right now, but look at the facts. He DESERVES the chance to have a crack at making a go of things after keeping us in the league last season.

Did sacking McGhee solve things? No.
Did sacking Wilkins solve things? No
Dick Sacking Adams solve things? Just....

Are we really so desperate we need a new manager? Has it really got so bad that nobody can see where the next win is coming from? I'd bet that a vast majority of supporters going to Withdean next Saturday are EXPECTING, rather than hoping, that we beat Wycombe, especially after the promising display last week.

He's had Kuipers sent off at Huddersfield, he's had Elphick and Calamity Hawk off against Stockport, and has just picked up a VERY creditable point at the Den. A point away from home is never a bad result anyway - so it's just Walsall game where you could argue it's all Slade's fault. - but then with so many new signings the 'time to gel' cliché is quite valid. Hell, I didn't even recognise the majority of the team.

2) Gary Dicker, while probably deserving to be in the team, is not Steven Gerrard, and Alan Navarro certainly isn't the worst midfielder in the world, even if he's made a fairly poor start to his career. Clearly, Navarro was seemingly shit hot against Scunthorpe pre-season, whereas Dicker (according to Russell) was just shit. The team obviously performed brilliantly in a 4-5-1 too. Slade's seen the 4-5-1- isn't going to work in every game, and changed things. If Navarro continues to flop, he'll see that too.

3) All the er..moaners harping on about us not signing an attacking central midfielder. Just because Thornhill didn't score 6 goals on his debut, doesn't mean he isn't the type of player we're after.

4) Is it just me who finds it ironic that the same dullards who plagued the board with the phrase "never go back" last season (almost as overused as Keep the faith) are the same people demanding Coppell is reinstated?

5) While we're on the subject of annoying cliché's, I keep reading the phrase "we've still not replaced Hammond". When, exactly, will we replace Hammond? Do we have to sign the man himself to do that? As I saw it, Hammond was a player who was decent in a tackle, fairly composed on the ball, could carry the ball from defence to attack, could play a decent pass and chipped in with the odd goal. Sounds a bit like Dicker to me?
Yes, Hammond chipped in with a few headers in his time here....but to be honest I can't think of any central midfielders in the Premiership who are known for scoring goals with their head, so the chances of getting one in League 1 aren't all that.

6) Dickinson - quality. So he might not have Murray's brain and goes down easily, but he puts himself around, isn't that slow for a big lad, and scores goals. Him and Forster were beginning to look like a partnership on Friday night.
Bennett - loads of pace and potential.
Tunicliffe - Young, decent enough at the Den, a new option with his throw in.


7) I went to see the stadium at Falmer last wekk. If you haven't been, DO IT. It's actually INCREDIBLE, the webcam doesn't do it justice at all.

I think that's all for now.
:wave:
 






Twinkle Toes

Growing old disgracefully
Apr 4, 2008
11,138
Hoveside
Bloody HECK! WW waxing lyrical & speakin sense!! :ohmy:

ps Keep that positivity coming. :thumbsup:
 








Frutos

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Helpful Moderator
NSC Patron
May 3, 2006
36,662
Northumberland
I agree with everything WW says there, and will now work on finding out who has hacked into the account and it posting under his name. :wink:
 


Captain Haddock

Active member
Aug 2, 2005
2,130
The Deep Blue Sea
Just a few things....

1) Slade. So the table isn't looking good right now, but look at the facts. He DESERVES the chance to have a crack at making a go of things after keeping us in the league last season.

Did sacking McGhee solve things? No.
Did sacking Wilkins solve things? No
Dick Sacking Adams solve things? Just....

Are we really so desperate we need a new manager? Has it really got so bad that nobody can see where the next win is coming from? I'd bet that a vast majority of supporters going to Withdean next Saturday are EXPECTING, rather than hoping, that we beat Wycombe, especially after the promising display last week.

He's had Kuipers sent off at Huddersfield, he's had Elphick and Calamity Hawk off against Stockport, and has just picked up a VERY creditable point at the Den. A point away from home is never a bad result anyway - so it's just Walsall game where you could argue it's all Slade's fault. - but then with so many new signings the 'time to gel' cliché is quite valid. Hell, I didn't even recognise the majority of the team.

2) Gary Dicker, while probably deserving to be in the team, is not Steven Gerrard, and Alan Navarro certainly isn't the worst midfielder in the world, even if he's made a fairly poor start to his career. Clearly, Navarro was seemingly shit hot against Scunthorpe pre-season, whereas Dicker (according to Russell) was just shit. The team obviously performed brilliantly in a 4-5-1 too. Slade's seen the 4-5-1- isn't going to work in every game, and changed things. If Navarro continues to flop, he'll see that too.

3) All the er..moaners harping on about us not signing an attacking central midfielder. Just because Thornhill didn't score 6 goals on his debut, doesn't mean he isn't the type of player we're after.

4) Is it just me who finds it ironic that the same dullards who plagued the board with the phrase "never go back" last season (almost as overused as Keep the faith) are the same people demanding Coppell is reinstated?

5) While we're on the subject of annoying cliché's, I keep reading the phrase "we've still not replaced Hammond". When, exactly, will we replace Hammond? Do we have to sign the man himself to do that? As I saw it, Hammond was a player who was decent in a tackle, fairly composed on the ball, could carry the ball from defence to attack, could play a decent pass and chipped in with the odd goal. Sounds a bit like Dicker to me?
Yes, Hammond chipped in with a few headers in his time here....but to be honest I can't think of any central midfielders in the Premiership who are known for scoring goals with their head, so the chances of getting one in League 1 aren't all that.

6) Dickinson - quality. So he might not have Murray's brain and goes down easily, but he puts himself around, isn't that slow for a big lad, and scores goals. Him and Forster were beginning to look like a partnership on Friday night.
Bennett - loads of pace and potential.
Tunicliffe - Young, decent enough at the Den, a new option with his throw in.


7) I went to see the stadium at Falmer last wekk. If you haven't been, DO IT. It's actually INCREDIBLE, the webcam doesn't do it justice at all.

I think that's all for now.
:wave:

Post of the week, hands down! :clap::clap::clap:
 














Scotty Mac

New member
Jul 13, 2003
24,405
moaning wanker
 


Captain Haddock

Active member
Aug 2, 2005
2,130
The Deep Blue Sea
On a footnote to WW's observations (and apologies if the point's been made elsewhere already) but is it not the case that Dicker hasn't featured from the start in the last couple of games (despite having impressed coming on from the bench) simply because he hasn't got full match fitness having been overlooked in the earlier games....the stiffs have only just started the season this week.

Having come on and done well in the last two games, I'll wager he will now be deemed relatively match fit and will start Saturday with his replacement coming on after 70 mins or so.
 


Bry Nylon

Test your smoke alarm
Helpful Moderator
Jul 21, 2003
21,077
Playing snooker
To be fair, WW always posts stuff that is well considered, well structured and well worth reading. Just because some people don't seem to like its general slant, he gets labelled as a "moaner", which I have always felt to be unreasonable and generally due to too many bandwagon jumpers.

The Complete Badger also seems to suffer, unfairly, from this. For my money WW & TCB are probably two of the best readers of the game and individual performances on this board. As someone who can only get to games infrequently, I value their opinions.
 




bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
I'm in shock, a very good and positive post from WW, I agree wholeheartedly, well said that man :clap::clap::clap:
 




Husty

Mooderator
Oct 18, 2008
11,998
Just a few things....

1) Slade. So the table isn't looking good right now, but look at the facts. He DESERVES the chance to have a crack at making a go of things after keeping us in the league last season.

Did sacking McGhee solve things? No.
Did sacking Wilkins solve things? No
Dick Sacking Adams solve things? Just....

Are we really so desperate we need a new manager? Has it really got so bad that nobody can see where the next win is coming from? I'd bet that a vast majority of supporters going to Withdean next Saturday are EXPECTING, rather than hoping, that we beat Wycombe, especially after the promising display last week.

He's had Kuipers sent off at Huddersfield, he's had Elphick and Calamity Hawk off against Stockport, and has just picked up a VERY creditable point at the Den. A point away from home is never a bad result anyway - so it's just Walsall game where you could argue it's all Slade's fault. - but then with so many new signings the 'time to gel' cliché is quite valid. Hell, I didn't even recognise the majority of the team.

2) Gary Dicker, while probably deserving to be in the team, is not Steven Gerrard, and Alan Navarro certainly isn't the worst midfielder in the world, even if he's made a fairly poor start to his career. Clearly, Navarro was seemingly shit hot against Scunthorpe pre-season, whereas Dicker (according to Russell) was just shit. The team obviously performed brilliantly in a 4-5-1 too. Slade's seen the 4-5-1- isn't going to work in every game, and changed things. If Navarro continues to flop, he'll see that too.

3) All the er..moaners harping on about us not signing an attacking central midfielder. Just because Thornhill didn't score 6 goals on his debut, doesn't mean he isn't the type of player we're after.

4) Is it just me who finds it ironic that the same dullards who plagued the board with the phrase "never go back" last season (almost as overused as Keep the faith) are the same people demanding Coppell is reinstated?

5) While we're on the subject of annoying cliché's, I keep reading the phrase "we've still not replaced Hammond". When, exactly, will we replace Hammond? Do we have to sign the man himself to do that? As I saw it, Hammond was a player who was decent in a tackle, fairly composed on the ball, could carry the ball from defence to attack, could play a decent pass and chipped in with the odd goal. Sounds a bit like Dicker to me?
Yes, Hammond chipped in with a few headers in his time here....but to be honest I can't think of any central midfielders in the Premiership who are known for scoring goals with their head, so the chances of getting one in League 1 aren't all that.

6) Dickinson - quality. So he might not have Murray's brain and goes down easily, but he puts himself around, isn't that slow for a big lad, and scores goals. Him and Forster were beginning to look like a partnership on Friday night.
Bennett - loads of pace and potential.
Tunicliffe - Young, decent enough at the Den, a new option with his throw in.


7) I went to see the stadium at Falmer last wekk. If you haven't been, DO IT. It's actually INCREDIBLE, the webcam doesn't do it justice at all.

I think that's all for now.
:wave:

Its a good post, i'd only disagree one point 3) I am doubting slades judgement in midfield, on the pitch navarro and crofts just isnt working, on paper atleast i see thornhill + dicker as a much better option, but has thornhill even appeared in the league yet? I also dont understand Tunnicliffe not playing, im a firm believe him at right back and whing at left is much better than sticking el liability on the pitch and his long throw can be a weapon if we spend some decent time in trainging learning how we can use it, players to aim it at e.t.c, treat it as a free kick. For me the team selection so far has been questionable
 


Bigtomfu

New member
Jul 25, 2003
4,416
Harrow
A great post and all valid points well reasoned, argued and executed.

My only fear for Russel will be if Bloom looks at the potentially alarming drop in gate figures should we remain in the doldrums on the pitch.

This did for Wilkins and it could do for RS.
 




SULLY COULDNT SHOOT

Loyal2Family+Albion!
Sep 28, 2004
11,346
Izmir, Southern Turkey
To be fair, WW always posts stuff that is well considered, well structured and well worth reading. Just because some people don't seem to like its general slant, he gets labelled as a "moaner", which I have always felt to be unreasonable and generally due to too many bandwagon jumpers.

The Complete Badger also seems to suffer, unfairly, from this. For my money WW & TCB are probably two of the best readers of the game and individual performances on this board. As someone who can only get to games infrequently, I value their opinions.


Oh come on Bry!!!! Are you seriosly saying you totally agree with Homage to Kuipers last weekend??? CB says a lot of good stuff WHEN he's not wearing kuipers-shaded sunglasses.
 


Ernest

Stupid IDIOT
Nov 8, 2003
42,758
LOONEY BIN
A great post and all valid points well reasoned, argued and executed.

My only fear for Russel will be if Bloom looks at the potentially alarming drop in gate figures should we remain in the doldrums on the pitch.

This did for Wilkins and it could do for RS.

Can't see there being more than 5500 on Saturday as people are voting with their wallets.
 


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