[Albion] 25/26 Season Points Total

[The Maharajah of Sydney]

Early Spread Markets have us reaching 54pts which would see us in 9th position.
Obviously, transfers and managerial changes will have an effect on the market but it's usually by no more than 2 or 3 points at best.
For context, at the same pre-season stage this time last year the market had us reaching 51 points and got it 10pts wrong !

Never seen the expected winning total to be quoted so low at around 77pts, it's usually around the 85pts mark.
Nothing to split the Top 3, in Outright Betting their basically 2/1 co-favourites, 13/1 bar (Chelsea).
Shaping up as a much more closer and competitive league this coming season.

 

[Motogull]

That looks pretty fair at the moment position wise although ManUre and the fighting cockwombles will hopefully finish lower.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

We're a buy there.

Newcastle a sell

Man U a sell

Sunderland a sell

Love spread betting. If only I had the liquidity to go in like I used to before I had these damn kids

 

[Simster]

We're a buy there.

Newcastle a sell

Man U a sell

Sunderland a sell

Love spread betting. If only I had the liquidity to go in like I used to before I had these damn kids

I agree with about half of that. We're a buy, and also agree that Man Utd are a sell.

But Sunderland will struggle for sure and unlike you, I wouldn't put my mortgage on Newcastle being further away from the top 3.

 

[The Maharajah of Sydney]

Think the Gunners are a standout short @ 76.5
I'd also be wary of selling Newcastle.

 

[kevo]

Strange that Palace are predicted to finish 12th.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

How does that work? What does the buy and sell mean?

 

[Happy Exile]

I hope no Leeds fans have seen this.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

How does that work? What does the buy and sell mean?

With spread betting, the more you're right the more you win

So If I buy Brighton's points total I guess that they will be higher than the buy amount. So say I bet at £100 per point and we ended up on 65 points, I win £1000 profit. If we got 68 points I would get £1300 profit.

But if we ended up on 46 points for example, i'd lose £900.

Because of the fact that the possible losses or gains are more open ended, you have to deposit large chunks in order to place the bet.

The opposite is to sell. I could think .... "No way are Sunderland getting 24.5 points". If I go big and bet £500 per point and they end up on 20, I get 4.5 x £500 profit. But if they then went on a mad run and ended up on 40 points, I face financial meltdown.

Spread betting is super fun. But there was one time I was say in the Exchange pub watching rugby literally crying at the amount of money I had just lost.

 

[Weststander]

Also worth bearing in mind that clubs with zero European football are advantaged, for example Newcastle and Villa finish lower when in Europe. Forest will pay a price, Manure will be advantaged.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Ah yeh another bad one. I used to do this stupid bet on the number of seconds between the start of the match and the first throw in.

I always sold, I can't remember what at, but probably around 45 seconds as there is often an early throw in. I did it loads of times in a world cup, I guess 2010, and kept winning. Then there was a match where a keeper got a head injury in the first couple of mins, before a throw. He was down for about 5 mins and the clock kept ticking and ticking and ticking. I'd probably gone in at £5 a second or something dumb like that. I wanted to puke watching that clock tick away.

Anyway I incurred some horrific losses on that one. There are limits on your losses or profits called a stop loss, but it didn't save me on that occasion

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Also worth bearing in mind clubs with zero European football, an advantage, for example Newcastle and Villa finish lower when in Europe. Forest will pay a price, Manure will be advantaged.

Yeh, I reckon the clubs playing in this ludicrous summer jamboree will pay the penalty when winter bites

 

[The Maharajah of Sydney]

But if we ended up on 56 points for example, i'd lose £900.

46 points not 56

 

[Weststander]

Yeh, I reckon the clubs playing in this ludicrous summer jamboree will pay the penalty when winter bites

Thomas Frank's Spuds will also find a price is paid. You need Chelsea/Abu Dhabi levels of spending to genuinely fight on all fronts up to May. The Albion, Fulham, Bmuff's of the PL will be waiting to pick off knackered European contenders in weekend PL games, after a full week's rest and prep.

 

[tstanbur]

Ah yeh another bad one. I used to do this stupid bet on the number of seconds between the start of the match and the first throw in.

I always sold, I can't remember what at, but probably around 45 seconds as there is often an early throw in. I did it loads of times in a world cup, I guess 2010, and kept winning. Then there was a match where a keeper got a head injury in the first couple of mins, before a throw. He was down for about 5 mins and the clock kept ticking and ticking and ticking. I'd probably gone in at £5 a second or something dumb like that. I wanted to puke watching that clock tick away.

Anyway I incurred some horrific losses on that one. There are limits on your losses or profits called a stop loss, but it didn't save me on that occasion

You’re not really convincing me to give it a go

 

[Uh_huh_him]

With spread betting, the more you're right the more you win

So If I buy Brighton's points total I guess that they will be higher than the buy amount. So say I bet at £100 per point and we ended up on 65 points, I win £1000 profit. If we got 68 points I would get £1300 profit.

But if we ended up on 56 points for example, i'd lose £900.

Because of the fact that the possible losses or gains are more open ended, you have to deposit large chunks in order to place the bet.

The opposite is to sell. I could think .... "No way are Sunderland getting 24.5 points". If I go big and bet £500 per point and they end up on 20, I get 4.5 x £500 profit. But if they then went on a mad run and ended up on 40 points, I face financial meltdown.

Spread betting is super fun. But there was one time I was say in the Exchange pub watching rugby literally crying at the amount of money I had just lost.

I remember one of my bosses would spread bet on the total aggregate of goalscorers shirt numbers in a given game..

Bloke was a degenerate gambler, and should have been allowed nowhere near spread betting markets.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

I remember one of my bosses would spread bet on the total aggregate of goalscorers shirt numbers in a given game..

Bloke was a degenerate gambler, and should have been allowed nowhere near spread betting markets.

I mean, spread betting markets do tend to attract degenerate gamblers.

I always thought that selling is the way to go. "Most people who do this are coked up city knobheads and are instinctive buyers, that will distort the market and create value in the sell", so my theory went. "Do a large number of sells. Sure you'll have the odd disaster, but over the long course, that's the way to make profit".

Probably did make a nice profit on cricket and politics. Lost it it on rugby and football though

 

[Machiavelli]

Think the Gunners are a standout short @ 76.5
I'd also be wary of selling Newcastle.

Now, I don't think I've grasped the terminology here so indulge me:
By 'standout short', you think Arsenal's points total will be lower?
And by 'wary of selling Newcastle', you think they'll get a higher total?
If so, not entirely sure on either. As you noted in your OP, the points total for the top 3 is comparatively low. I think buying City and especially Liverpool are the better odds.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

With spread betting, the more you're right the more you win

So If I buy Brighton's points total I guess that they will be higher than the buy amount. So say I bet at £100 per point and we ended up on 65 points, I win £1000 profit. If we got 68 points I would get £1300 profit.

But if we ended up on 46 points for example, i'd lose £900.

Because of the fact that the possible losses or gains are more open ended, you have to deposit large chunks in order to place the bet.

The opposite is to sell. I could think .... "No way are Sunderland getting 24.5 points". If I go big and bet £500 per point and they end up on 20, I get 4.5 x £500 profit. But if they then went on a mad run and ended up on 40 points, I face financial meltdown.

Spread betting is super fun. But there was one time I was say in the Exchange pub watching rugby literally crying at the amount of money I had just lost.

I was going to give you a thumbs up but didn't want it to look like I was enjoying your rugby loss...

I'm not sure I have the bollocks for that kind of betting. Defiinitely not with the Albion, that would tip me over the edge.

 

[mrjon1976]

Am I the only one disappointed that this wasn't about our season ticket points pre and post cull?