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[Politics] 2020 US election - Joe Biden vs Donald Trump

Who's going to win?

  • Calling it for Trump

    Votes: 78 30.2%
  • Calling it for Biden

    Votes: 180 69.8%

  • Total voters
    258
  • Poll closed .






crodonilson

He/Him
Jan 17, 2005
13,760
Lyme Regis
Sleepy Joe on the drift again on the exchanges, out to 1.06, so a 6% profit on whatever you put on, collect on 21st January. You're not going to get that sort of interest in a bank for 2 years let alone 2 months.
 


bhafc99

Well-known member
Oct 14, 2003
7,224
Dubai


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,641


bhafc99

Well-known member
Oct 14, 2003
7,224
Dubai
Another fun day ahead, waiting for Diaper Don to wake up and start tweeting on the latest developments…

1) Late yesterday, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court threw out an attempt to have 2.5m mail-in ballots discounted. “They have failed to allege that even a single mail-in ballot was fraudulently cast or counted,” the judges stated. That's legal defeat #38 for Team Trump. It's going well so far. #redwave

2) A guy who donated $2.5m to the Trump efforts to get the result overturned has demanded his money back, and is taking them to court for it. The group he gave his money to "dropped its legal actions and discontinued its Validate the Vote 2020 campaign, then refused to return his calls when he demanded an explanation". His “requests were consistently met with vague responses, platitudes, and empty promises”. No shit dude. Fool, money, parted etc.
 




Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
15,247
Another fun day ahead, waiting for Diaper Don to wake up and start tweeting on the latest developments…

1) Late yesterday, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court threw out an attempt to have 2.5m mail-in ballots discounted. “They have failed to allege that even a single mail-in ballot was fraudulently cast or counted,” the judges stated. That's legal defeat #38 for Team Trump. It's going well so far. #redwave

2) A guy who donated $2.5m to the Trump efforts to get the result overturned has demanded his money back, and is taking them to court for it. The group he gave his money to "dropped its legal actions and discontinued its Validate the Vote 2020 campaign, then refused to return his calls when he demanded an explanation". His “requests were consistently met with vague responses, platitudes, and empty promises”. No shit dude. Fool, money, parted etc.

I saw that he was ranting away again on a Fox News show – the host (Maria whatsername) just seemed to let him get on with it. The funniest (least believable) bit I heard was him saying he had many world leaders calling him at 10pm congratulating him on winning another term (yeah, OK MATE!!!) before there was a "massive dump" :lolol:


Stil, Red wave coming and all that...
 


Stat Brother

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
Another fun day ahead, waiting for Diaper Don to wake up and start tweeting on the latest developments…

1) Late yesterday, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court threw out an attempt to have 2.5m mail-in ballots discounted. “They have failed to allege that even a single mail-in ballot was fraudulently cast or counted,” the judges stated. That's legal defeat #38 for Team Trump. It's going well so far. #redwave

2) A guy who donated $2.5m to the Trump efforts to get the result overturned has demanded his money back, and is taking them to court for it. The group he gave his money to "dropped its legal actions and discontinued its Validate the Vote 2020 campaign, then refused to return his calls when he demanded an explanation". His “requests were consistently met with vague responses, platitudes, and empty promises”. No shit dude. Fool, money, parted etc.

Gotta wonder how someone with that level of weapons grade stupidity amassed a spare $2.5m.






I guess he inherited it.
 


Gazwag

5 millionth post poster
Mar 4, 2004
30,390
Bexhill-on-Sea
Gotta wonder how someone with that level of weapons grade stupidity amassed a spare $2.5m.






I guess he inherited it.

You don't have to be bright to earn a fortune

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US Seagull

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
3,898
Cleveland, OH
I'm increasingly of the opinion, fairly or not, that the Dems might just throw a hail mary here and make a late substitution (to mix my sports metaphors a bit).

RNC is next week. If Biden was to withdraw, then the last day of the RNC, where the Republicans will anoint king Donald as their nominee would be an absolute baller time to steal the headlines.
 




rippleman

Well-known member
Oct 18, 2011
4,751
Biden MUST stand down. No, ifs, buts or maybes.

It was going to be a tough fight to defeat Trump in any event but Biden, who is clearly seriously unwell, would have no chance this time around. You can't expect even the most ardent Democrat supporters to vote for a man who probably has dementia or something similar.

By not stepping down, Biden's arrogance and intransigence hands the election on a plate for Trump. And Trump poses a real danger not only to America but the western world.
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,180
Brighton
The biggest problem for me is you cannot look at Joe Biden and say with any certainty he will still be with us in 2-3-4 years time.

As much as anything, for that reason he cannot be seen as fit to lead one of the most stressful and high pressure jobs in the World.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
53,327
Faversham
The biggest problem for me is you cannot look at Joe Biden and say with any certainty he will still be with us in 2-3-4 years time.

As much as anything, for that reason he cannot be seen as fit to lead one of the most stressful and high pressure jobs in the World.
The only question is whether he can function now. We can't play 'what if later?'. My concern is that Biden may have gone beyond the point where he is capable of realizing he needs to stand down without having reached the point when medics can declare he is unfit to stand. And the longer this goes on the worse the final outcome will look. For the Democrats. Looks like @lasvegan was right all along :down:
 






Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,180
Brighton
The only question is whether he can function now. We can't play 'what if later?'.
I have to disagree. The job is for a 4 year term, not for one week. It's essential that he is seen as capable of being able to do the job for the full term.

"Ah it's alright, he'll probably last the next couple of months" - really?
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
53,327
Faversham
I have to disagree. The job is for a 4 year term, not for one week. It's essential that he is seen as capable of being able to do the job for the full term.

"Ah it's alright, he'll probably last the next couple of months" - really?
You misunderstand me. He may well be unfit to stand now, but not necessarily legally-medically unfit. This is the problem. There seem to be no useful definitions for what constitutes fitness to stand. Meanwhile the court of public opinion is making up its mind.

Of course one worries sbout what will happen over the next 4 years, and it is reasonable (common sense even) to anticipate he may reach the point where he effectively needs to be 'sectioned' but that is not sufficient reason for making him stand down now. And in fact nobody can make him stand down now if he is deemed not sufficiently impaired to be forced to do so.

Those who can step in can act only on the evidence they have now, not on what they think may be the case in a couple of months.

It wouldn't surprise me, going forward, knowing the fondness of Americans for wheezes like the 'lie detector' that they introduce some sort of Functional Observational Battery of tests to ensure the candidates have sufficient mental nimbleness and swiftness of accurate decision making to be allowed onto the slate. On the other hand, if it ain't already in the constitution, maybe not....

Can he fire a gun? Yes! He's fit to stand! :facepalm:
 






US Seagull

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
3,898
Cleveland, OH
Biden MUST stand down. No, ifs, buts or maybes.

It was going to be a tough fight to defeat Trump in any event but Biden, who is clearly seriously unwell, would have no chance this time around. You can't expect even the most ardent Democrat supporters to vote for a man who probably has dementia or something similar.

By not stepping down, Biden's arrogance and intransigence hands the election on a plate for Trump. And Trump poses a real danger not only to America but the western world.
I don't think you can underestimate how much of Biden's support is mostly (or completely) anti-Trump. Personally, I can't imagine any candidate that the Democrats could put up that would make me want to vote for Trump. Absolute worse case would they put somebody up that made me want to skip it altogether.

I'd rather take frail Joe over destroy democracy Trump.
 


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