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2011 Cenus



Seagull on the wing

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Sep 22, 2010
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Hailsham
How many think it is an intrusion on our privacy and how many are going to put Albionism or Seagullilitus as their religion?:glare:
 




seagullsovergrimsby

#cpfctinpotclub
Aug 21, 2005
44,109
Crap Town
or a follower of Gus Poyet ?
 




Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
You need to complete the census. Central government and local councils use the data (especially the population statistics) for future planning and funding requirements. So if you don't complete it, and half your local schools, council leisure facilities, social services etc disappear through lack of funding, you will be at least partly to blame because of your apathy.

PS - you can claim to be whatever religion you want - even Crystallus Phallusiticals
 


The Sock of Poskett

The best is yet to come (spoiler alert)
Jun 12, 2009
2,863
No idea what a Cenus is but if you mean the Census, the religion question is the only voluntary one in it. You don't have to answer it.
 




Marc

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Jul 6, 2003
25,267
Jedi....ALWAYS Jedi!
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,451
only paranoid planks must think its an invasion of privacy. its just a baseline for stats and so the state can see more easily at a snap shot who the public are. cant claim the goverment doesn't represent you if you've hidden from them.

for religion, vote Jedi! or even, put what faith you are. but i do wish people wouldn't default to "christian" when they only see inside a church when they flick past Songs of Praise on a Sunday evening.
 


MissT

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Nov 16, 2009
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I've enjoyed using census information from the past in trying to work out my family tree. People worried about them then which is why the promise was given not to release them to the public for 100 years.
 






Giraffe

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Aug 8, 2005
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Jedi for me too. How much longer before the Government has to accept this as a bona fide religion?
 






Robot Chicken

Seriously?
Jul 5, 2003
13,154
Chicken World
British Humanist Assocation. Pah. We got there first.
 




Seagull on the wing

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Sep 22, 2010
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Hailsham
I did not say it WAS an intrusion on our privacy...I said...How many THINK it is an intrusion....why can't you read?
Do you not think that the Government has all this knowledge anyway...if companies have all this knowlrdge stowed away why not the Government.
Apologis(z)e for mis-spelling census....my brandy was more important!
 




withdeanwombat

Well-known member
Feb 17, 2005
8,775
Somersetshire
As a genes reunited and ancestry fan,I will fill the form fully and honestly so that in ONE HUNDRED YEARS time when the answers are made available to family historians they will find,if they want to,who I was. and what I was.

That is,a first year Amex season ticket holder and a Jedi Knight.

May the power,etc.
 


dingodan

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Feb 16, 2011
10,080
I myself have been very concerned about the census ever since I heard Lockheed Martin were bidding for the contract. They are a US defence contractor and it is my understanding that if the data is ever held in the US it will be subject to the provisions of the US Patriot Act.

More info here:

Lockheed Martin Awarded 150M Contract to Support 2011 Census for England and Wales, and Northern Ireland | Lockheed Martin
Boycott the UK census over links to Lockheed Martin, protesters say | UK news | guardian.co.uk

We need to be more concerned about these defence contractors making their data mining/gathering techniques appear to be benign and for our benefit, because I genuinely dont believe that they are.

The truth about Facebook:

 
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beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,451
The truth about Facebook:

The irony is, all that information about facebook and links from one company to people to govenement organisations, is all in the public domain. the truth of facebook is people freely put their details up on a public site (with a clear intent to exploit their data if they bother to read the terms and policies), so they arent really too concerned with the safty of that data. which anyone could obtain covertly anyway.
 






Couldn't Be Hyypia

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Nov 12, 2006
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Near Bridport, Dorset
All of the information that you are required to provide in the census is already in the public domain. The census is just a snapshot of who is where at a particular time in order to plan services and allocate resources. As someone said, people share FAR more on Twitter and Faceboot (eg photo of their house, town where they live and a Facebook message saying "This is me and the whole family on the first day of our one month in Australia! Yay!"). If people think this is an invasion of privacy then grow up. Censuses have been taken by central governments across the world for thousands of years.
 


As a genes reunited and ancestry fan,I will fill the form fully and honestly so that in ONE HUNDRED YEARS time when the answers are made available to family historians they will find,if they want to,who I was. and what I was.
Curiously, neither the 2001 census nor the 2011 census asked the "where were you born?" question. Every other census, from 1841 to 1991, asked this question. Our descendants will have to search elsewhere for the answer.

It won't be a problem, though, since birth certificate information for everyone born in England or Wales is already available on-line to us Ancestry subscribers - except for births more recent than 2005. As an example of how "privacy" simply doesn't exist, I'll just point out that 30 seconds searching has just told me that there were TWO Glenn Murrays born in the last quarter of 1983, our man and one born in Islington.
 


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