[Politics] Brexit

nicko31 · Mar 13, 2019

Notters said:
Which to me, justifies a second referendum - both for leavers and remainers. But the leavers still shout about this destroying democracy as we know it.

Problem with 2nd ref, is its clear there are still criminals are large that were involved in the June 2016 and with patchy evidence they can just carry on with their activities. No names mentioned...

Thunder Bolt · Mar 13, 2019

Tim Over Whelmed said:
Unless people really research the costs of the EU, understand the duplication to meet political pettiness and consider the implications of a non audited organisation I think it's hard to make a firm decision. That said I think an EU better run would be a good thing but that'll never happen.

The EU finances are audited.

Btw David Cameron turned down EU money a few years ago when the Somerset levels and other areas were badly flooded. He knew if he accepted it the public perception of the EU would be kinder.

Triggaaar · Mar 13, 2019

JC Footy Genius said:
The BBC's Europe Editor Katya Adler says that the view in Brussels is that a no-deal Brexit is now even more likely.

It is a "hardening mood," she says.

She adds that the EU does not want the UK to leave without a deal, but it is not prepared to give further concessions.

"With only 17 days left to 29 March, today's vote has significantly increased the likelihood of a 'no-deal' Brexit. We will continue our no-deal preparations and ensure that we will be ready if such a scenario arises. - Donald Tusk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IEwBrJzhlg

Is it PotG? · Mar 13, 2019

Thunder Bolt said:
The EU finances are audited.

Btw David Cameron turned down EU money a few years ago when the Somerset levels and other areas were badly flooded. He knew if he accepted it the public perception of the EU would be kinder.

Indeed

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/weather/10637597/UK-floods-Cameron-turns-to-Brussels-for-aid.html

CHAPPERS · Mar 13, 2019

Blue Valkyrie said:
https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1105797205712093184?s=19

No extension, folks.

Agents of influence will block it.

The Kremlin's *no deal* is very much on.

Still possible long shots of Article 50 revocation, or May's Deal passing ( at 3rd attempt ) in play. Just.

Funny how Mrs May has never been interested in investigating this. It will surely be so reveavling what is going on that they have to revoke Article 50. It's all in plain sight!

Triggaaar · Mar 13, 2019

Thunder Bolt said:
How does it adversely affect the EU? How are they going to suffer from us leaving without a withdrawal agreement?

Seriously? We import hundred of billions worth from the EU. That would be affected, therefore affecting their economies.

Triggaaar · Mar 13, 2019

nicko31 said:
fancy a bit of disaster capitalism to fund our Wembley visit next month...

We'll get knocked out by Millwall.

CHAPPERS · Mar 13, 2019

Blue Valkyrie said:
https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1105797205712093184?s=19

No extension, folks.

Agents of influence will block it.

The Kremlin's *no deal* is very much on.

Still possible long shots of Article 50 revocation, or May's Deal passing ( at 3rd attempt ) in play. Just.

PMQ's might be a good time to bring it up too.

Thunder Bolt · Mar 13, 2019

Triggaaar said:
Seriously? We import hundred of billions worth from the EU. That would be affected, therefore affecting their economies.

They still have 26 other countries, plus their trade agreements around the world, ie Australia, Japan, Canada etc to trade with.
Our imports will be zero rated according to the government, so loads can come in, but we will become massively expensive to buy from so our exports will tank.

Is it PotG? · Mar 13, 2019

Thunder Bolt said:
They still have 26 other countries, plus their trade agreements around the world, ie Australia, Japan, Canada etc to trade with.
Our imports will be zero rated according to the government, so loads can come in, but we will become massively expensive to buy from so our exports will tank.

Nowhere near all of these 26 countries are offering too much in that area.

ManOfSussex · Mar 13, 2019

Oh here we go again - The EU need us more than we need them/It's all Johnny Foreigner's fault. . :facepalm:

Triggaaar · Mar 13, 2019

Thunder Bolt said:
Our imports will be zero rated according to the government, so loads can come in

Have you got a link for that?

Blue Valkyrie · Mar 13, 2019

ozzygull said:
I woke up this morning with the radio interviewing some tw@t saying the we would be alright "cause there lots of rabbits and we can grow vegetables in the garden"

So I decided that the radio will be off and streaming a play list while I work from home, will help my sanity

With wonderful co-incidence the UK 'Hungry Gap' is April, May and June.

Perfect timing.

Thunder Bolt · Mar 13, 2019

Blue Valkyrie said:
They did. And admitted it.

But "fell for it" is harsh. It implies a failing, which is not true. Human minds generally act in predictable ways, so there is no failure here.

A civilian population was subjected to military grade psychological warfare attacks. Which worked, and guided us towards the Kremlin's goal outcome.

Signing deals with Italy's far right as we speak.
https://www.ft.com/content/0d33d22c-0280-11e7-ace0-1ce02ef0def9

Triggaaar · Mar 13, 2019

ManOfSussex said:
Oh here we go again - The EU need us more than we need them/It's all Johnny Foreigner's fault. .

Who posted that?

BigGully · Mar 13, 2019

Notters said:
Which to me, justifies a second referendum - both for leavers and remainers. But the leavers still shout about this destroying democracy as we know it.

Why bother claiming to seek 'justification' when you hoped for a second referendum less than 36 hours after the first one when there was zero justification other than wishing Remain had won and Leave had lost, you then sneer at Brexiteers that might 'shout about destroying democracy' some time later ........ what would you call it ?

seagulls4ever · Mar 13, 2019

Thunder Bolt said:
They still have 26 other countries, plus their trade agreements around the world, ie Australia, Japan, Canada etc to trade with.
Our imports will be zero rated according to the government, so loads can come in, but we will become massively expensive to buy from so our exports will tank.

The new tariff regime would mark a shift in favour of products from non-EU countries.

It would mean 82% of imports from the EU would be tariff-free, down from 100% now.

92% percent of imports from the rest of the world would pay no border duty, up from 56%.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47551266

Ireland’s European affairs minister, Helen McEntee, said the prospect of tariffs on beef and dairy exports to the UK from the republic would be “absolutely disastrous for Irish agriculture”.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...imports-cut-to-zero-in-temporary-no-deal-plan

Notters · Mar 13, 2019

nicko31 said:
Problem with 2nd ref, is its clear there are still criminals are large that were involved in the June 2016 and with patchy evidence they can just carry on with their activities. No names mentioned...

Well yes, a public enquiry on this is needed too.

Thunder Bolt · Mar 13, 2019

Triggaaar said:
Who posted that?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35409274

nicko31 · Mar 13, 2019

Triggaaar said:
Have you got a link for that?

Will severely damage our industries as JRM economic advisor Patrick Minford has already pointed out

https://news.sky.com/story/majority-of-uk-import-tariffs-set-at-zero-in-a-no-deal-brexit-11663849

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