[News] The Energy crisis

Neville's Breakfast said:

Some mistake here surely. You have posted an article about state ownership of utilities with which I agree completely. I think you meant to post one about European companies subsidizing home markets with profits made in the UK ? I don’t know much about that and simply challenged you earlier in the thread to back this up. You still haven’t. Don’t know where you get ‘evasive’ from. Why would I be ? I am just trying to share my experience on a forum. If you aren’t interested just put me on ignore. I am not upset at all but I do think you are rather rude as I have attempted to answer all of your questions politely even though they haven’t really been that ‘pertinent.’ If you are still talking about ‘our’ gas then you just don’t understand markets.

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beorhthelm said:

so the reason Germany have the most expensive electricity and gas normally, is so they dont have to pay more in a time like this? sound planning that. bit awkward then that they are having the same problems there https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/german-households-face-115-rise-gas-bills-2021-09-20/ and thats before we get onto their continued use of coal as backup power.

that article didnt really say what you think it said, keen to prompt public ownership without showing how that made any difference, leaving you to infer its so much better.

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vegster said:

I do think its you that has been rude going by your previous replies

Sorry, thought you were well up on state owned /foreign energy companies that own overseas ( UK ) energy companies. those such as below....https://www.lovemoney.com/guides/22...y is,1946 and became a public company in 2004.

I'm posting this for reference as I'm sure you are aware of the linkages to european energy companies already.

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Neville's Breakfast said:

Reference for what ? This is getting a bit surreal and tiresome. That article also does not back up your claim about European energy companies subsidizing their home customers at the expense of UK customers. I am very open to you doing so, as I have said I don’t know much about it. All you have done though is simply post something that describes foreign ownership of various companies. So what ? If you can’t back up your claim perhaps you need to say so and we can move on. This thread is about the energy crisis not half baked conspiracy theories about foreigners.

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Cotton Socks said:

All I know is that my bill has just literally doubled. My fix is coming to an end, so 2 days ago I started looking around. £147pm was the cheapest fix. I went back today as I'm now within the no exit charges & the cheapest fix I can get is £173pm.

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Uncle C said:

Am I missing something double £147 would be £294.

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Weststander said:

Well that went well.

I was with Igloo Energy (who are about to go bust by all accounts), who kept landing exponential price rises on me.

A month ago I moved to Avro Energy, who a few minutes ago went into Administration.

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peterward said:

Just announced bud, we're off to Octopus.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-10030177/Avro-Energy-customers-moved-Octopus-need-know.html

fwiw, I've been looking at them as the old man uses them, pretty competitive and Martin Lewis the other day recommended them on R5L (as the only provider doing a fixed less than cap - £50 less)

Theyve also been making noises about buying BULB, so sounds like theyre not presently potless.

https://octopus.energy/avro/

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Worthingite said:

I work for igloo and as yet we haven't gone bust. Clinging on for dear life, but not bust yet. Not going to lie, work is incredibly hard going at the moment. Looking to escape it with a win tonight lol

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bhafc99 said:

We were Igloo customers until about 90 minutes ago, but they've just gone under.

[MENTION=21578]Worthingite[/MENTION] Hope you come out of this ok mate.

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pb21 said:

I can't remember for certain, but, I seem to recall there were some significant, valid, concerns regarding that proposed scheme.

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mwrpoole said:

We were Avro but have been moved to Octopus Energy.

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peterward said:

likewise and [MENTION=21158]Weststander[/MENTION] too.

says their tarrif will be cheaper by £10 than the cap/standard variable rate, cheaper than current fixed rates,and they claim cheaper than you can find at any of the big 6??

But still no price per kwh announced for either Gas or Elec to us Avro imports? dont really want to move but will certainly check those claims as I found a deal with Eon through Martin Lewis site that based on my kwh usage per year was a bit cheaper? but need to compare the kwh prices and standing charges.

Octopus claim you wont be able to move until November or if you try it will likely fail, they look like a pretty cool company, like what I see, but price will ultimately dictate. Will be them or one of the big 6, no more small providers for the forseeable future.

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peterward said:

likewise and [MENTION=21158]Weststander[/MENTION] too.

says their tarrif will be cheaper by £10 than the cap/standard variable rate, cheaper than current fixed rates,and they claim cheaper than you can find at any of the big 6??

But still no price per kwh announced for either Gas or Elec to us Avro imports? dont really want to move but will certainly check those claims as I found a deal with Eon through Martin Lewis site that based on my kwh usage per year was a bit cheaper? but need to compare the kwh prices and standing charges.

Octopus claim you wont be able to move until November or if you try it will likely fail, they look like a pretty cool company, like what I see, but price will ultimately dictate. Will be them or one of the big 6, no more small providers for the forseeable future.

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