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Time of fear?
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Albion Dan
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Utter rubbish. Some friends of mine went who are the total opposite of right wing and said they saw no overt right wing symbolism at all. The media are using this to try and discredit the event. Manipulation. Again.
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Albion Dan
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I think you can raise your 40s to +70s. Very very very unlikely anyone under that age would die without having serious underlying issues.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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apart from the fascist flag, maybe they were looking the other way.
midnight_rendezvous
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And the bloke who idolises Farage on this very thread.....
Albion Dan
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Rubbish. The WHO and Dr Fauci are all on record saying masks don’t make any difference.
beorhthelm
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much of the problems with original reaction and extended policy seem to have stemed from this, and why so many countries made same mistakes.
RossyG
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- Dec 20, 2014
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I don’t believe Covid 19 is a hoax, I think it’s a real virus (a coronavirus like the cold, the flu, and H1N1) that has been disastrously handled by most of the world’s governments.
As I said earlier, I went to the rally to hear the doctors and nurses not the conspiracy types. I left before Icke spoke as I think his idea that the moon is a hologram housing shape shifting lizard men might be slightly wide of the mark.
****wit is an empirical, objective statement? Fancy that!
Greg Dyke's lost a bit of weight and grown a beard. Never had him down as a fascist tbf.
To be fair to the tinfoilers, two blokes with a flag doesn't make the whole thing a RW/fascist event.
But anyone who goes to anything where David Icke is welcome to speak needs to have a word with themselves, write 100 lines and then not look at the internet again for at least a month. I mean David Icke, FFS.
By protecting the NHS the way we did and for the length we did we have now overwhelmed it beyond a fix, if the figure of 10 million on the waiting list is correct that’s just a number, Most of those people Won’t be seen before it’s too late.
I’ve read something on the CDC that is now saying Less than 10k people in the states have died of the just Covid - they now have a massive problem for that number of deaths
You emailed your friend for backup, that is sweet.
Backup? I didn’t need any backup. I have one of the most liked posts on this thread ffs.
I emailed him as soon as I saw the thread. I didn’t ask him to post anything.
larus
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Didn’t some cretin get a BUF flag out in London? As above, right wing nutters who, whilst protesting against further lockdowns and restrictions, don’t seem to grasp the fact that avoiding such mass gatherings will probably reduce the risk of further lockdowns
Everyone has bias. I really am rather baffled at why you’re being so defensive over being asked to provide a source
Whenever I read any of your posts, you have this view of self-righteousness which is associated with the left. You, from what I’ve seen, throw insults around (see your quoted post), just because people DARE to have a different opinion to you.
As a conservative, I believe in Free Education, Free NHS, well funded police, defence, etc. I believe in the welfare state to support those who fall on hard times. I don’t however think that people should expect handouts and contribute nothing.
In regards the NHS, I want the best service at point of delivery. However, if this happened to be (gasp) a private hospital, the left would throw accusations of destroying/privatising the NHS. I want the best, most effective NHS for the HUGE sums of money. It’s been proven that it can’t cope as we had to lock down to protect the NHS. Strange, I thought the NHS was there to protect us! In my (luckily limited) dealings with the NHS I’ve found it inefficient and wasteful. Lots of people seem to stand around just chatting too.
On the other side, I despise bosses/corporations who abuse power/employees. The banks are prime examples of this. Capitalism is not perfect, but IMO, it is the best we currently have. However, the capitalism we are experiencing now is corrupted, as firms which fail should go bust and not be supported (which is what we have been experiencing for the last 12 odd years with QE). We don’t have true capitalism now, and Covid is exacerbating the problem with all of these bail-outs and ‘funny’ money.
Yes, as I said the concept was correct, the actual response has been an unmitigated disaster.
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Has your wife logged onto your account or something?
LOL! No, I am just a realist, not a dreamer. My wife taught me that.
Baldseagull
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That is an estimate on the increased numbers of cancer deaths due to later diagnosis than would otherwise have occurred if cancer screening had not been suspended. It does not (as it is impossible) take account of increased covid deaths that may have occurred with increased contact and putting patients on immuno-compromising cancer treatments. What it tells us is that some people will have had their outcome damaged by lockdown, it doesnt tell us if there is a net benefit or cost.
I suspect a lockdown that did not include a suspension of screening would have been the most beneficial to all, but probably would have seen a few more oncologists in the death toll from Covid, which would also have had an impact on the outcomes of cancer patients in itself.
Albion Dan
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One flag [emoji23] out of thousands of attendees. I wouldn’t be surprised if 99% of people there didn’t see it. But let’s use that to discredit the whole event. Standard media manipulation tactics. I see you like to take your media fed medicine like a good boy.
Saw this the other day - Who guidelines say of 2019
If it’s accurate - can’t see where it says mass lock down for the point we were at when we did.