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drew
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Sweden has a massively different demographic to us.
See other posts re your comment about surgical masks.
If you don't think it is about public health then what is is about?
studio150
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With a post like this, I can only assume that you are the other person who believes Trump's slides other than Trump himself.
Albion Dan
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But he's right on everything except death rate during peak months. Which is now lower than last years figure. And abnormal March to May non covid deaths were higher than average too as a result of lack down. fact. Why does trump come into it? Its pretty obvious the long term effect of the cure is going to be much worse for society long term.
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Albion Dan
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Ha the Sweden demographic twaddle gets trotted out whenever it makes out policy look obviously foolish.
Albion Dan
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Yep let's decimate life as we knew it for a disease that barely kills anyone under 80 who wasn't severely ill anyway.
Albion Dan
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Bill Gates is directing the WHO agenda.
You trust Bill Gates?
https://www.facebook.com/407132169302786/posts/3754502014565768/?extid=xVwIa3xiMGzEOuSK&d=null&vh=e
You trust Bill Gates?
https://www.facebook.com/407132169302786/posts/3754502014565768/?extid=xVwIa3xiMGzEOuSK&d=null&vh=e
keaton
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But Sweden have better life expectancy, higher levels of health care and lower levels of obesity, over crowding, poverty, chronic disease etc.
RossyG
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But masks don’t do that. And if they did, why am I responsible for other people’s health? Will you be wearing a mask every flu season (January to April) just on the off chance? Should we shut pubs and cinemas and ban all spectator sports during those months from now on?
There are currently more NHS hospital in England than there are Covid patients in them. For this we’ve trashed our economy, which will lead to health issues, and then there’s the ticking time bomb of undiagnosed and untreated cancer. And then there’s the mental health aspect too.
Quarantining the sick is one thing; quarantining the healthy is tyranny.
And if you want a sneak preview of what our lovely government has in store for us, have a look at what’s going on in Victoria, Australia right now.
Still, one interesting affect of C19:this winter down under is that flu has mysteriously vanished. Funny that, isn’t it?
RossyG
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You don’t get it. Those of us who just want to continue our lives as before are not the paranoid tinfoil hat ones.
LamieRobertson
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Lol..this thread is going exactly the way the project restart thread did ..might as well copy and paste it...in the red corner ...and in the green corner ....
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RossyG
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We were told the lockdown was to flatten the curve. The curve is completely flat (and there’s a big question mark against the death figures as they are. Died with is not the same as died from.)
The narrative now seems to be no normality until people stop dying of anything.
Oh and notice how the media and politicians now talk of coronavirus not Covid-19 (the common cold is a coronavirus) and of infections instead of hospitalisation sand deaths.
WilburySeagull
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What a sad post. "Why am responsible for other peoples health." Because you have responsibilities as a member of the community thats why!
Nothing mysterious about flu disappering it often does. As for the Swedish model if its so good ignoring the UK why has no other country followed it? Even their fellow Scandanavians dont like it. I guess the closest to itbby accident not design is the USA and what a success that is!
RossyG
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But where does my duty of care to other people end? Should everyone be banned from driving in case they hit somebody? I’m perfectly healthy yet, along with everyone else, has been treated as a biohazard this year and that’s insane.
If this was an actual pandemic, everyone would know someone who’d died of Covid and the hospitals would be full. That’s not the case though, is it? In fact, if it wasn’t for the masks and the constant media coverage, would anyone even know about this?
darkwolf666
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So you are happy to quarantine at least 3 million people (5% of the population), as this is the minimum number. And what do you mean by quarantine? Lock up? What about their mental health, or does that not matter as they are ill and going to die sometime in the next couple of years anyway.
RossyG
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I think it should be a free choice. I wouldn’t lock anyone up.
I’d offer the vulnerable free supplies of hydroxychloroquine and zinc, which has been proven to be an excellent palliative and cure.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/richardursomd/status/1294438462423273473?s=21[/tweet]
darkwolf666
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Ok, free choice, but your free choice is to allow 3 million people to contract the virus - then treat them! If they don't die first...
You are Dominic Cummings and I claim my £5
darkwolf666
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No, they're the selfish ***** who care about no-one but themselves!
RossyG
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Nearly everyone who gets this disease will brush it off.
There’s an existing drug that can used to treat those who are old with co-morbities who would be more seriously affected.
Those who died would’ve been just as vulnerable to other viruses. People at the end of their lives are killed by the likes of the flu and pneumonia.
What you’re saying is just hysterical nonsense. Do you routinely wear a mask each flu season? If you don’t, does that make you a selfish four asterisks?
RossyG
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You’re the one that believes everything the Tory government tells you.
And three million dying?
Were you one of these people that said that if people had VE Day celebrations then there’d be a second wave? Or if they went to the beach? Or if they went to a protest in London? If so, get someone to explain this to you.
