[Albion] Amex Light Pollution.

Thunder Bolt · Jan 25, 2020

Seagull4Ever said:
I live in Woodingdean and can assure you this glow has been there the whole time the stadium has existed, so can’t understand why it’s becoming an issue now !

I’d love to know how it possibly affects the wildlife anyway for Christ’s sake ?

It's just a bit brighter at the moment due to low cloud cover reflecting it.

Doc Lynam · Jan 25, 2020

I was told that a guy from the South Downs National Trust had worked with the stadium regarding light pollution, not sure whether that included the grass growing lights, seems like an awful waste of energy going up into the clouds.

http://chng.it/HQrWjyLYNQ

Signed, love the club, don’t love the light pollution.

Pickles · Jan 25, 2020

B-right-on said:
Drove back from Eastbourne yesterday and today and could see it at least as far as Druscilas, if not further away. I did wonder what it was. Thought it was very strange floodlight colour.

I drove back from Eastbourne yesterday also.

Was that red glow really the lights from The Amex

Frankie · Jan 25, 2020

BNthree · Jan 25, 2020

The Amex grow lamps do seem to be doing overtime at the moment; presumably because the pitch has been looking ropey so they're trying to sort that out.

Thunder Bolt · Jan 25, 2020

Doc Lynam said:
I was told that a guy from the South Downs National Trust had worked with the stadium regarding light pollution, not sure whether that included the grass growing lights, seems like an awful waste of energy going up into the clouds.

http://chng.it/HQrWjyLYNQ

Signed, love the club, don’t love the light pollution.

Light pollution means you cannot see the stars. You can't see the stars when it is very cloudy. You can only see a strong reflection from the Amex lights when it is very low cloud.
:facepalm:

wellquickwoody · Jan 25, 2020

Votes heavily influenced by the BBS (Palace Forum) apparently.

Doc Lynam · Jan 25, 2020

Thunder Bolt said:
Light pollution means you cannot see the stars. You can't see the stars when it is very cloudy. You can only see a strong reflection from the Amex lights when it is very low cloud.

Come on do a cursory bit of research and you’ll find you’re way off the mark. Light pollution is actually quite an interesting subject.

Doc Lynam · Jan 25, 2020

wellquickwoody said:
Votes heavily influenced by the BBS (Palace Forum) apparently.

Why can they see it as far as south London? I know local groups that have signed this, blaming them up the road is an easy way to do nothing.

Mr Putdown · Jan 25, 2020

Thunder Bolt said:
It only happens when there is a depression in the weather, causing low cloud cover. The Amex has been open since 2011, and it happens occasionally. It will all be forgotten in a couple of weeks, the same as it was last winter and the winter before.

It’s only more noticeable to us when there is low cloud cover, the level of light pollution remains the same when there’s no low cloud, it’s just not so obvious to us humans.

Creaky · Jan 25, 2020

Taybha said:
Some twit will now come forward suggesting that a rare breed of bat that is attracted to light has been found hanging in the beams, so the stadium should be demolished immediately in case others like it descend upon The Amex as a show of bat solidarity, thus wiping out a species that nobody never knew existed until Brighton and Hove Albion discovered electricity.

It won’t be the bats but it most certainly will be insects - insects that provide the food for bats

Just another step in the decline of insects which are at the bottom of the food chain relied on by so much wildlife.

I can’t remember the last time I had to clean the car windscreen of dead insects - 50 years ago, even in the winter, the windscreen would be covered after just a short drive.

Thunder Bolt · Jan 25, 2020

Mr Putdown said:
It’s only more noticeable to us when there is low cloud cover, the level of light pollution remains the same when there’s no low cloud, it’s just not so obvious to us humans.

This came up at the public inquiry when we were still trying to get planning permission. There is a six lane road, and a railway station already at the location, so a few grass growing machines don't add much to that except when clouds are acting like a giant mirror reflecting it.

Wardy's twin · Jan 25, 2020

I live in Woodingdean and have done for many years. The issue has become much more apparent in the last 4 weeks or so, I had not noticed it before and expect it is down to low cloud and generally the high level of moisture in the air. Last week end it was dry with a very clear sky and not noticeable. I have pictures of night sky from recent times so I know the lights are not doing this all the time. That said when it happens it is very noticeable so anything that could be done should be tried as there might be a simple solution.

Mr Putdown · Jan 25, 2020

Thunder Bolt said:
This came up at the public inquiry when we were still trying to get planning permission. There is a six lane road, and a railway station already at the location, so a few grass growing machines don't add much to that except when clouds are acting like a giant mirror reflecting it.

So why don’t the six lane road and the railway station also reflect all this light when clouds are acting like a giant mirror?

In times of low cloud it shows just how much light pollution is occurring when the grow lights are used a night, it’s just not obvious when there is no cloud.

Thunder Bolt · Jan 25, 2020

Mr Putdown said:
So why don’t the six lane road and the railway station also reflect all this light when clouds are acting like a giant mirror?

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They do. It gets merged as clouds don't discriminate. :lolol:

Pavilionaire · Jan 25, 2020

The ground staff are clearly trying to get the grass to grow more quickly to repair the pitch which has deteriorated because of heavy use and heavy rain. Reduced use of these lighting rigs will mean a worse surface, so more likely our already slow players will get more bogged down.

Embrace the light cloud and pray for dryer weather.

*Gullsworth* · Jan 25, 2020

schmunk said:
Why not buy a commemorative print...

https://www.seagullspics.com/amex-stadium/amex-stadium-14008744.html

(I have not altered this!)

No lights on the pitch there. So The Amex is innocent. :clap:

DumLum · Jan 25, 2020

wellquickwoody said:
Votes heavily influenced by the BBS (Palace Forum) apparently.

Really? Is it on there?
I've seen the petition shared in local groups. Over 3100 have now signed.

Mr Putdown · Jan 25, 2020

DumLum said:
Really? Is it on there?
I've seen the petition shared in local groups. Over 3100 have now signed.

It is, but I had to look for it. About six people claimed to have signed it...

Publius Ovidius · Jan 25, 2020

Yes this seems to gathering momentum with the local tree huggers.

If you follow Brighton skies on Facebook, they are very vocal

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