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Weststander

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Top of the table now, we are the bigliest under Boris

Regards

DF

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But.

Despite the Delta variant having been in the uk for months and Brighton (young un-vax’d) population having a high covid case rate just now. BBC SE just reported zero covid patients in the Royal Sussex.
 




Kinky Gerbil

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But.

Despite the Delta variant having been in the uk for months and Brighton (young un-vax’d) population having a high covid case rate just now. BBC SE just reported zero covid patients in the Royal Sussex.

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Also.
 


crodonilson

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I hope today's figures of over 16,000 cases are a blip, it looked like cases were slowing down and I was hoping they would begin to plateau from next week.

:nono:
 




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dazzer6666

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Behind the paywall you have access to, the US and Europe are rapidly opening up stuff ahead of us. From 1 July more EU nations plan to allow incoming tourists. Whilst the UK de facto prevents its double-vax’d citizens going overseas on holiday.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/uk-stuck-covid-slow-lane-europe-america-dance/

Despite.

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Answers on a postcard.

Ask Angela……..she is now wanting the EU to quarantine all Brits….what a mess…….
 


Weststander

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Ask Angela……..she is now wanting the EU to quarantine all Brits….what a mess…….

A huge, packed and hugging crowd tonight at Portugal v France.

Have they all been double vax’d?

I sincerely hope not, but I wonder if the crowds relaxation in the UK and rest of Europe for these EURO’s will cause a significant spike in a few weeks time?
 


Kinky Gerbil

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Behind the paywall you have access to, the US and Europe are rapidly opening up stuff ahead of us. From 1 July more EU nations plan to allow incoming tourists. Whilst the UK de facto prevents its double-vax’d citizens going overseas on holiday.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/uk-stuck-covid-slow-lane-europe-america-dance/

Despite.

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Answers on a postcard.

If you work for Uefa/g7 / or eco group you can travel 😂
 












beorhthelm

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Were the SAGE models based on restrictions still being in placed or not?

the Sage model on previous page is from Imperial forecasts, showing the forecast of different unlocking schedules. these forecast are based on Alpha (Kent) variant, predating the higher transmissible Delta variant.
 


e77

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the Sage model on previous page is from Imperial forecasts, showing the forecast of different unlocking schedules. these forecast are based on Alpha (Kent) variant, predating the higher transmissible Delta variant.

So it is a bit harsh comparing predictions of what would happen if their was no restrictions as this isn't happening in the real world? That said the lower precision is presumably a similar scenario to what is actually happening so there is some value in comparing it.
 


Yoda

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So it is a bit harsh comparing predictions of what would happen if their was no restrictions as this isn't happening in the real world? That said the lower precision is presumably a similar scenario to what is actually happening so there is some value in comparing it.

I had thought they were based on the current unlocking schedule (until stage 4 was pushed back 4 weeks) based on solely the Alpha Variant.
 




Kinky Gerbil

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So it is a bit harsh comparing predictions of what would happen if their was no restrictions as this isn't happening in the real world? That said the lower precision is presumably a similar scenario to what is actually happening so there is some value in comparing it.

Isn’t it worse for the modellers?

The original road map ones are still way out more a more transmissible variant

The best case (in which we are still in step 2 ) was us being at over 2000 people in hospital now.

The ones published for the delay are quite a way out as well - one had 100k case for 21st June.
 


e77

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Isn’t it worse for the modellers?

The original road map ones are still way out more a more transmissible variant

The best case (in which we are still in step 2 ) was us being at over 2000 people in hospital now.

The ones published for the delay are quite a way out as well - one had 100k case for 21st June.

Yes and no.

To be honest anticipating a new strain every six months or so should be baked into their predications by now but if they were working on the assumption there would be no restrictions in place it is different to the current situation.
 


beorhthelm

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So it is a bit harsh comparing predictions of what would happen if their was no restrictions as this isn't happening in the real world? That said the lower precision is presumably a similar scenario to what is actually happening so there is some value in comparing it.

i didnt say no restrictions. there were various scenarios for easing unlocking/reduced restrictions on different time frames, we have followed the scenario of that circled (with added extra extension). we are way below that because the model gives pessimistic estimates for factors involved, even when we have the Delta mutant.

worth noting the report the graph is based on is probably (basing on time of it in Feb) intended to advise what the easing schedule should be.
 
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Notters

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Caused by surge testing in Scotland apparently.

They've just started doing this here in Leeds too.

Worth noting that (due to young population), cities generally have by far the lowers vaccination rates, as well as the best conditions for transmission. This will of course improve, but will take time.
 




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The Clamp

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Government allowing the British Grand Prix to admit 114,000 before Covid restrictions are eased. Again goes to show, if the big money wants something to happen, it will happen. Madness. Utter madness.
 


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