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[News] POLL TIME - Danny Baker’s tweet
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I am one of the pc brigade and I'm not offended.
This is a campaign of condemnation for those who wish to be seen as virtuous and popular. Nothing to do with pc.
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
A couple of thoughts on this, DB is very vocal on his radio show, about the numerous perceived failings of the upper echelons of the BBC, their PC agenda, the presentation of various radio formats, and the slavish adherence to the Premier League business model. His opposition to the forthcoming VAR experiment is particularly vociferous.
On Twitter, he is scathing about the current government as well.
I can see a scenario, where the upper management at the Beeb have been waiting for an excuse to rid themselves of, what could be seen as, an embarrassing problem. Unfortunately, they gave Baker enough rope, and he made a noose.
On Twitter, he is scathing about the current government as well.
I can see a scenario, where the upper management at the Beeb have been waiting for an excuse to rid themselves of, what could be seen as, an embarrassing problem. Unfortunately, they gave Baker enough rope, and he made a noose.
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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I'm really hoping I'm being whooshed here.
worthingseagull123
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- May 5, 2012
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People are far too easily offended these days.
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
He admits it was a terrible mistake. Just listening to the LBC interview.
My life will be that little bit poorer for not having the first 30 minutes of his R5 programme on a Sunday morning.
As someone who also has his own tropes, not only on here ('oh goody, another poll' etc) but also in real life (work and family - I won't bore you, they have to suffer it so I'll spare you the agony) I'd be mightily pissed off if employers who should (and yes, do) know my schtik, and that I am a force for the good (which DB certainly is) choose to throw me under the bus just so they can accrue a small tiding of approval from the most very ignorant and lazy minded of the hoi polloi. Most of whom hate DB anyway, largely because they don't approve of a working class man with wit, money, fast friends and a grounded family.
Yes, I'm quite ****ed off about this.
Is it usual for such a rapid sacking? I would have thought a suspension while some meaningless investigation followed by an apology and return to work would have been a better way to handle it.
Sorrel
Well-known member
This is the first time on one of these offence things that I really couldn't get what the problem was until I saw it explained. At that point it's "oh yeah, I guess some people could think that".
We have one set of people - like DB - who like funny images and little jokes. We have another set of people who've been primed (rightly or wrongly) to see offence in any potential image/words. This second set would *obviously* see the image as a problem. DB was thinking twitter was like talking to his mates, but in fact he's shouting to everyone, including those looking for problems.
The end result is not a surprise. We all have to choose our words with care; especially if lots of people are looking at them.
We have one set of people - like DB - who like funny images and little jokes. We have another set of people who've been primed (rightly or wrongly) to see offence in any potential image/words. This second set would *obviously* see the image as a problem. DB was thinking twitter was like talking to his mates, but in fact he's shouting to everyone, including those looking for problems.
The end result is not a surprise. We all have to choose our words with care; especially if lots of people are looking at them.
This.
**** me. In my game, if we had to guarantee we were right every time we came up with an idea, there would be no medicines. Fact.
The man is a bringer of joy. If you don't dare to do then you'll never do, and if you fear to fail you'll forever never do.
I just made that up. Pretty good eh?
But I do talk a lot of bollocks too. We all do.
The trick is being able to spot the self serving **** from the hearty fellow. Hearty fellows often accidentally offend.
Anyway, enough of this. I have dinner to eat and football to watch. English football. In European competition.
Nope.
Poster demonstrates that lazy ignorance expressed anonymously on a football site does NOT lead to sacking in the morning.
More's the pity.
DumLum
Well-known member
It was easier back in the day when to avoid being a racist you treated everybody the same and rightly so.
Now the woke have arrived you have to notice a person's race and treat them differently.
It's difficult to keep up, anybody using the term mixed race is now frowned upon. The term is now of Dual Race? The aggressiveness of the woke doesn't help and I think we are going backwards personally.
Now the woke have arrived you have to notice a person's race and treat them differently.
It's difficult to keep up, anybody using the term mixed race is now frowned upon. The term is now of Dual Race? The aggressiveness of the woke doesn't help and I think we are going backwards personally.
wolfie
Well-known member
He’s got himself into a hole and just kept digging. Saying he doesn’t know who had the baby just makes him look even more stupid.
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lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
I made a similar faux pas a couple of years ago having a meal out. A young black family were on an opposite table with a young girl, three years old ish.We were chatting with her parents and I started smiling and pulling faces at her, and she was responding, poking her tongue out , etc. As we left, we said goodbye to her Mum and Dad, and I quite innocently called her a cheeky monkey.
It was only later that I realised the offence that I could have caused quite unintentionally.
It was only later that I realised the offence that I could have caused quite unintentionally.
Deadly Danson
Well-known member
Exactly and that's why intent is so important here. More amazingly 18 people have used their critical faculties to state DB knew that what he was sending was racist and did it anyway. We are all entitled to a difference of opinion but I find that extraordinary.
Sorry I didn’t make myself very clear. If we accept that Danny Baker didn’t mean anything racist then what is the joke?
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
I think the point ( not joke ) of the tweet was that royal babies are treated like circus animals.
Still, we now have his head on a spike so bad luck, Danny.
WilburySeagull
New member
I suuspect that he is a self employed contractor nit an employee in which case suspension etc are not relevant. He may well have a clause in his contract allowing BBC to end it in these circumstances.
No you’re not part of the problem, he is!
symyjym
Banned
Not sure what is preposterous about how royal babies are reported when leaving hospital. I didn't even know she had given birth until I saw that he has been sacked on a news feed and normally it's the anti Royalists who give things like this the most attention. Are you saying that this was a joke in protest of the Royal establishment and had a more sophisticated message behind it? I know nothing about this sausage sandwich game so I don't feel this loss.