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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
- Start date
Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
Nope, remain
What about own goals?
Superphil
Dismember
Where’s the option for “same as last time”?
Seasidesage
New member
I think a GE is probably the only thing that can break the impasse now, This parliament cannot get any deal over the line, the EU will not negotiate with this shower of shit and who can blame them? Regardless of whether you want a 2nd referendum or not there is no time and even if we had one with this HOC there would be no progress regardless of whether they could agree the questions and the outcome. Even a remain vote would be frustrated by the Brexiteers. A No deal clearly would be as would any deal similar to this one. The EU don't seem to want to allow an extension unless something fundamentally changes and who can blame them.
Only a GE with clear policies from hopefully new political parties will get an extension offer from the EU. A proper majority for one outcome, deliverable and with a clear mandate has any chance of success.
No bloody idea how we get there right now mind. Turkey's don't vote for Christmas
Only a GE with clear policies from hopefully new political parties will get an extension offer from the EU. A proper majority for one outcome, deliverable and with a clear mandate has any chance of success.
No bloody idea how we get there right now mind. Turkey's don't vote for Christmas
Silverhatch
Well-known member
The likelihood of this country ever being offered a binary yes/no referendum again... Nil
The likelihood of this country's political system recovering from this shit fest... Nil
The likelihood of this country's political system recovering from this shit fest... Nil
Pavilionaire
Well-known member
- Jul 7, 2003
- 30,590
It will be interesting to see how a People's Vote goes, free of Russian interference, buses that lie, Project Fear, posters with queues of Syrians and lies about Turkey. Free of charlatans promising unicorns and rainbows, cake and eat it or an Emergency Budget for a post-Referendum meltdown that was never going to materialise.
If we can put a man in space we should be able to organise a People's Vote in the time an Article 50 extension permits.
No campaigns, just a naked, stripped back 'Remain or Leave' vote.
A few days ago I suggested that a Leave' vote could be followed by a supplementary "May's Deal or No Deal" tick box, but the scale of her defeat tonight leaves that notion in tatters.
I feel a Norway-style Deal will satisfy virtually no one and as a country we'd probably have to Leave with No Deal to then see where that takes us. We'll soon find out that No Deal is completely unpalatable but the country will have learned its lesson and only then will we be ready to move on to an EFTA / EEA membership or even EU readmission.
I say "we" but in reality for me there is no "we" any more. Almost 3 years on and I have yet to have heard or read ANY cogent argument about how Brexit can work and make the UK a richer, better, more united place than we had in 2016. If any Brexiteer can come on here and outline exactly how leaving the EU is going to work I'm all ears.
If we can put a man in space we should be able to organise a People's Vote in the time an Article 50 extension permits.
No campaigns, just a naked, stripped back 'Remain or Leave' vote.
A few days ago I suggested that a Leave' vote could be followed by a supplementary "May's Deal or No Deal" tick box, but the scale of her defeat tonight leaves that notion in tatters.
I feel a Norway-style Deal will satisfy virtually no one and as a country we'd probably have to Leave with No Deal to then see where that takes us. We'll soon find out that No Deal is completely unpalatable but the country will have learned its lesson and only then will we be ready to move on to an EFTA / EEA membership or even EU readmission.
I say "we" but in reality for me there is no "we" any more. Almost 3 years on and I have yet to have heard or read ANY cogent argument about how Brexit can work and make the UK a richer, better, more united place than we had in 2016. If any Brexiteer can come on here and outline exactly how leaving the EU is going to work I'm all ears.
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GT49er
Well-known member
Wrong decision, mate. I understand the principal behind your thinking, but all that will do is let the cheats and liars and shysters who have fought Brexit every step of the way to have their own selfish way. You're right, they're shouldn't be another referendum - we've had one and the result should have been respected by our so-called democratic Parliament - but they'll probably have one to try and legitimise their actions.
So, if you voted leave, vote leave - again and again and again if necessary - and get any friends or relatives you know who didn't bother voting leave last time because they didn't think we had a prayer - get them out to vote too. Let's win another referendum - if they have one - and hammer it into the heads of those self-satisfied, think-they-know-better shysters that leave doesn't mean fanny around with it and hope it goes away.
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
If we have a Sussex King and Queen shouldn’t it be someone who has been to the county more than once?
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
Some people like marmite.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
What would happen if:
Tomorrow they voted against No Deal.
Thursday they voted against not extending A50.
Would revoking A50 have to be an option?
GT49er
Well-known member
No, just about leaving, mate. Don't care who leads us out, just as long as they do - they're all pretty incompetent anyway............
GT49er
Well-known member
So, no-one born and bred in Sussex, who has lived there all their life, then?
This is exactly why remain would win. Too many leave voters are like BG and won’t vote again because leave means leave.
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
No, we need someone who has seen how bad other places are, compared to our little heaven on Earth.