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dingodan · Nov 1, 2020

father_and_son said:
When have the democrats claimed they won't accept the result?

Not seen anything from either the party or its followers to suggest they won't admit defeat... Unlike the other side (or one person in particular!)

Stato said:
Don't pretend that this is a problem on both sides. Only one person has refused to say that democracy is more important than him winning. Only one is talking openly about winning in the courts not by the ballot.

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Also, don't forget that the media called the election for GW Bush, once they announced that, it was "over". Very shady and not certain he actually won. The media have a lot of power over the narrative and they are overwhelmingly in favor of one candidate. Best thing we can hope for is that whoever wins wins big. Otherwise I don't really trust either side to be graceful and honest about the result if they lose. Hope it doesn't turn out that way.

drew · Nov 1, 2020

dingodan said:
& the possible reasons is...that the Obama administration was scandal free right?

Even Joe Biden had the nerve to say that. "For Eight Years, There Wasn't One Single Hint of a Scandal or a Lie".

How about Benghazi and the subsequent coverup, Fast and Furious (ATF gunwalking scandal), Secret Service Colombia prostitution scandal and subsequent coverup, wiretapping of Associated Press reporters and editors, $1.6 billion payment to Iran, IRS political targeting, Snowden, VA scandal, Project Cassandra, "Flexibility" hot-mic moment with Dmitry Medvedev...

What exactly is the coverup relating to Benghazi?

knocky1 · Nov 1, 2020

dingodan said:
& the possible reasons is...that the Obama administration was scandal free right?

Even Joe Biden had the nerve to say that. "For Eight Years, There Wasn't One Single Hint of a Scandal or a Lie".

How about Benghazi and the subsequent coverup, Fast and Furious (ATF gunwalking scandal), Secret Service Colombia prostitution scandal and subsequent coverup, wiretapping of Associated Press reporters and editors, $1.6 billion payment to Iran, IRS political targeting, Snowden, VA scandal, Project Cassandra, "Flexibility" hot-mic moment with Dmitry Medvedev...

https://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?381963-Joe-Biden

Tom Bombadil · Nov 1, 2020

drew said:
What exactly is the coverup relating to Benghazi?

There wasn't one. The republicans investigated it multiple times to discredit Hillary Clinton and found the square root of **** all but have ever since claimed a cover up whilst providing no plausible evidence whatsoever. It's a succesful tactic though, because despite no wrong doing republicans have repeatedly used it to smear Clinton and the democrats and rile up their base.

father_and_son · Nov 1, 2020

dingodan said:
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Also, don't forget that the media called the election for GW Bush, once they announced that, it was "over". Very shady and not certain he actually won. The media have a lot of power over the narrative and they are overwhelmingly in favor of one candidate. Best thing we can hope for is that whoever wins wins big. Otherwise I don't really trust either side to be graceful and honest about the result if they lose. Hope it doesn't turn out that way.

He is a pollster defending his profession. He is not speaking for the democrats and, although I suspect he is a democrat, he is not speaking for their supporters.

Again... Only one person is pushing to call the election rigged and suggesting he won't follow the democratically chosen decision of the people of America.

bhafc99 · Nov 1, 2020

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drew · Nov 1, 2020

Voroshilov said:
There wasn't one. The republicans investigated it multiple times to discredit Hillary Clinton and found the square root of **** all but have ever since claimed a cover up whilst providing no plausible evidence whatsoever. It's a succesful tactic though, because despite no wrong doing republicans have repeatedly used it to smear Clinton and the democrats and rile up their base.

Thanks but I was really hoping Dingo Man would respond in person but he wouldn't be able to post the same as you because he'd be admitting he post shite!

dingodan · Nov 1, 2020

drew said:
What exactly is the coverup relating to Benghazi?

Voroshilov said:
There wasn't one. The republicans investigated it multiple times to discredit Hillary Clinton and found the square root of **** all but have ever since claimed a cover up whilst providing no plausible evidence whatsoever. It's a succesful tactic though, because despite no wrong doing republicans have repeatedly used it to smear Clinton and the democrats and rile up their base.

It was claimed to have been caused by an inflamatory video, that's what was being said in public. In private communications, at the same time, it was acknowledged to have been a planned attack. The preceding months there had been repeated calls for more security, which were denied. All the while,

"$650,000 on Facebook ads, when they didn’t have enough money for additional security… $5 million was spent on crystal glassware that summer, so there’s a lot of expenditures"

Rescue attempts were also blocked, despite teams being ready to go and only minutes away.

more:

"Gregory Hicks, deputy to murdered US ambassador Christopher Stevens, revealed for the first time in public a detailed account of the desperate few hours after the terrorist attacks on the US consulate in Benghazi...

"While US diplomats were pulling bodies from a burning Libyan consulate and frantically smashing up hard drives last 11 September, their superiors blocked rescue efforts and later attempted to cover up security failings...

https://www.politico.com/blogs/poli...wn-on-criticism-of-clinton-on-benghazi-190868
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/08/benghazi-us-officials-blocked-congress-hearing

A1X · Nov 1, 2020

Voroshilov said:
There wasn't one. The republicans investigated it multiple times to discredit Hillary Clinton and found the square root of **** all but have ever since claimed a cover up whilst providing no plausible evidence whatsoever. It's a succesful tactic though, because despite no wrong doing republicans have repeatedly used it to smear Clinton and the democrats and rile up their base.

They tried it again with the "We had LOADS of evidence about Biden but it's all mysteriously disappeared", although this time it seems hardly anyone was dumb enough to actually fall for it.

BadFish · Nov 1, 2020

dingodan said:
Which one do you think will get more scrutiny?

Trump couldn't get away with cheating at Uno, every move he makes in crtiqued and watched like a hawk, because everyone hates him. Obama, everyone went home because "it's all good, it's Obama". I see I got a lot of sh*t for posting that Obama was a worse President than Trump. People only don't think Obama was that bad because all anyone ever focused on was that smile and wit. Well Obama's Presidency was rife with scandal, and he was one of the most internationally agressive Presidents in recent times too. Domestic spying on U.S. citizens continued and expanded. None of it got the attention it deserved, nor did it get the attention it would have got under Trump. That's one of the reasons I don't think a Trump Presidency is a bad situtation. He couldn't get away with the smallest transgression without being lept on. Good.

So now it's about who gets the most scrutiny?

In all honesty it looks to me like you are suffering from the biases that you are accusing the rest of us of.

I'm out.

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drew · Nov 1, 2020

dingodan said:
It was claimed to have been caused by an inflamatory video, that's what was being said in public. In private communications, at the same time, it was acknowledged to have been a planned attack. The preceding months there had been repeated calls for more security, which were denied. All the while,

"$650,000 on Facebook ads, when they didn’t have enough money for additional security… $5 million was spent on crystal glassware that summer, so there’s a lot of expenditures"

Rescue attempts were also blocked, despite teams being ready to go and only minutes away.

more:

"Gregory Hicks, deputy to murdered US ambassador Christopher Stevens, revealed for the first time in public a detailed account of the desperate few hours after the terrorist attacks on the US consulate in Benghazi...

"While US diplomats were pulling bodies from a burning Libyan consulate and frantically smashing up hard drives last 11 September, their superiors blocked rescue efforts and later attempted to cover up security failings...

https://www.politico.com/blogs/poli...wn-on-criticism-of-clinton-on-benghazi-190868
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/08/benghazi-us-officials-blocked-congress-hearing

But 10 investigations, including 6 by republicans lay no blame on Obama. However, you seem to know different.

Weststander · Nov 2, 2020

The Democrats/Biden have an ever increasing lead in polling.

A clean sweep is still very much on.

How will Trump take a crushing defeat? Will he try to encourage his Alt Right gun men to fight democracy?

lasvegan · Nov 2, 2020

drew said:
But 10 investigations, including 6 by republicans lay no blame on Obama. However, you seem to know different.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016...artment-obama-administration-house-committee/

It was a coverup of gross negligence.

StonehamPark · Nov 2, 2020

Weststander said:
The Democrats/Biden have an ever increasing lead in polling.

A clean sweep is still very much on.

How will Trump take a crushing defeat? Will he try to encourage his Alt Right gun men to fight democracy?

This is my fear. I think he may utter the words; 'Tyrannical Government', knowing full well how his extreme supporters will interpret it.

Klaas · Nov 2, 2020

I can't shake the feeling he will win again. And even if he doesn't, he will claim he has, and after 4 years of tacit approval and outright incitement from the ****, a number of his, well armed followers won't be happy.

Mellotron · Nov 2, 2020

Shit for brains is now openly admitting he is trying to steal the election via the courts.

nwgull · Nov 2, 2020

Klaas said:
I can't shake the feeling he will win again. And even if he doesn't, he will claim he has, and after 4 years of tacit approval and outright incitement from the ****, a number of his, well armed followers won't be happy.

I don't think he'll win. I am however almost certain that he'll claim victory on Tuesday night before the millions of (heavily Democrat) postal ballots have been counted. The subsequent weeks will be a shambles.

Greg Bobkin · Nov 2, 2020

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Eeyore · Nov 2, 2020

The red wave is coming.

Mellotron · Nov 2, 2020

Brighton Lines said:
The red wave is coming.

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