nicko31
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No.70 Whitehall this afternoon (the cabinet office)
The message is BOLLOCKS TO BREXIT...
The message is BOLLOCKS TO BREXIT...
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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*sigh* I can see why people have trouble with your posts/reasoning.
Strange fellow, indeed.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Leaving respects the result. Now it transpires a minority government and majority remain parliament have f*d up the leaving process the campaign has nothing to do with it.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,338
Well I didn't go up to show "my support". I've been to a number of these things to observe, the most most surreal being the countryside alliance one.
What I observed today was hundreds and hundreds and thousands of "ordinary" people. Most striking was the elderly, somewhat smashing away the argument that anyone over a certain age would definitely vote out.
I expected a coalition of rainbow flags, the socialist worker and those using the day to promote their own causes, "women for the EU", "vegans against Brexit" etc...
But I didn't. Just ordinary people, the "losers", the "moaners", the frankly forgotten by the Political Class. How ironic.
It led me to conclusion that many people voted Brexit not to make to own lives better, but simply to make others lives worse in some form of demented revenge. Against what ?
If you consider yourself a patriot (which I do), watch Hestletine's speech on You Tube. Awesome.
portslade seagull
Well-known member
One million snowflakes who can't accept a result
pastafarian
Well-known member
Why would i be enraged.
They ended up with a final deciding binary referendum which they have honoured. You can have various referendum to get you to the point where you ask the final deciding vote, which should be respected.
And no its not a process we could have done as negotiations are contingent on previously already deciding to leave and handing in your notice
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,338
I watched that take place. The people doing it weren't your usual anarchist, but more of a demographic you would see at a Coldplay concert.
The forgotten 48% percent.
nicko31
Well-known member
Indeed, we now know the Brexit lies were not deliverable. What's is left is May's deal, parliament clearly doesn't want it, but it really is down to people to decide if we would to go ahead with Brexit
Yes this will divide, but can we be any more divided than we are now?.
With all due respect, the campaign has a lot to do with it.
People were fed lies and half-truths.
That is why the only democratic thing to do is let them re-evaluate and think again. That's what rational people do.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
You don't believe in enacting the democratic results of elections, therefore, don't respect democracy
nicko31
Well-known member
Yeah it was a bit of a mix of Coldplay and the Waitrose shopper, Brexit I'm afraid is a bit of a class war
The 48% have been hung out to dry, a lot of people I know voted Tory before but won't again until there is a massive change in their party.
pastafarian
Well-known member
No you were quite clear, even if you didnt mean to let it slip out. As far as you are concerned being in the EU without all the same terms horrifies you. Stands to reason bog standard EU membership in your view is a bit shit
pastafarian
Well-known member
Eh? You just said there were a million dick heads there
Are you deliberately obtuse or just on a wind-up? My point (and quite clear it was) is that why would we give up what we already have, yet want to rejoin with far less than we already have?
I don't know you at all, but I do worry about you.
And you have only just learned of this? And to think that many Brexitiers have been labelled as stupid, I wonder why?
Mind you, as a confirmed remainer, the protest in London calling for a second referendum was ruined by a poison dwarf who holds no position in the UK parliament having the temerity to address a mainly English crowd on why Brexit should be stopped. Keep ya beak out Krankie!
Can you explain what happens with your “rational “ second referendum if
1. The majority decision again is within 10% of the other.
2. Leave win the vote again.
?
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Like half a million more unemployed and an immediate recession etc If lies and half-truths invalidate election results then no election is valid.
I agree with most remainers but to say the forgotten 48% is somewhat fantasy. It's the 48% that have been the most vocal and certainly the most supported by the politicians, hardly forgotten, for if they had we would have had a hard brexit and left by now.
My job most probably relies on a soft brexit/no leave, what is needed is a cross party resolution. The problem is though the idiot MP's.
You don't believe in enacting the democratic results of elections, therefore, don't respect democracy
Again, democracy gives people the right to change their minds/think again.
You are trying to deny them that democratic right.
But thank you for your opinion.
So, we disagree, like half the country do. Now that more joined-up thinking has been/is being done, why do you think it is unreasonable to give people another (more informed - on both sides) say?
What do you have to lose? Seriously?