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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
    1,083


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,332
Part of passing the deal in Parliament would have to be repealing Mogg's tax amendment.

they may do, though i noted specific language of NI remaining in the UK Customs Territory, may be a nod to this.
 




Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
There's quite a few I'm interested in hearing from.

Waiting for Nigel Farage's Twitter account to update has become almost as exciting as the football scores on Ceefax used to be.
He'll have been hospitalised by rage with righteous anger off the scale.

Perhaps he'll self-combust.
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,986
Crawley
Part of passing the deal in Parliament would have to be repealing Mogg's tax amendment.

The problem is not for the future, it makes it unlawful for the UK government to seek a deal that puts Northern Ireland in different customs to the rest of the UK now, but the deal as I understand it, has Northern Ireland in the UK customs, but also in EU customs, depending on the circumstances, which may get around it.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,332
And when it becomes clear to people this isn't actually a "Deal", it is a Withdrawal Agreement, we stay in until 31 Dec 20 and pay £39 billion then it won't look so rosy.

some pedantry, "Withdrawal Agreement" is the name of whatever the EU and UK agree, the £39bn is mostly the outstanding annual payments what will be paid for membership.

what will be interesting is if there are payments attached to future relation and how they will be sold to the public.
 




Blackadder

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 6, 2003
16,077
Haywards Heath
There's quite a few I'm interested in hearing from.

Waiting for Nigel Farage's Twitter account to update has become almost as exciting as the football scores on Ceefax used to be.

He has just said "It's not Brexit" What a surprise.
 








beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,332
speaking of definition, Corbyn says the deal is worse than May's. how so, and what should be done differently isnt said. one thing consistent in this saga is politicians not telling anyone what they mean, sticking to vague terms to speak to multiple groups at once.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,332






vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,905
He has just said "It's not Brexit" What a surprise.
Damn! The only tangible benefit of Brexit would be get Farage out of the public eye.
 


Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
NSC Patron
Jul 16, 2003
57,940
hassocks
There is no point the DUP existing if they're going to roll over and let NI be treated differently from the rest of the UK.

By doing so they move away from London and towards Dublin and Brussels. Boris would be happy to throw NI under a bus if he had to, and it looks like he just has.

And when it becomes clear to people this isn't actually a "Deal", it is a Withdrawal Agreement, we stay in until 31 Dec 20 and pay £39 billion then it won't look so rosy.

I am purely going on whats on here and have not read anything - which is more than likely a mistake.

But hasnt he just asked for an extension?
 






maltaseagull

Well-known member
Feb 25, 2009
13,057
Zabbar- Malta
speaking of definition, Corbyn says the deal is worse than May's. how so, and what should be done differently isnt said. one thing consistent in this saga is politicians not telling anyone what they mean, sticking to vague terms to speak to multiple groups at once.

It seems that all Corbyn has done throughout this process is fudge and criticise anything proposed by the Tories. Nothing wrong in criticising the Tories but does he have a single idea on a move forward?
A few months ago he was demanding that May resign and hold an election. Now he waits! Now he wants a referendum.
JC You cannot please all the people all the time.

This deal will probably be torpedoed by the DUP all 10 of them.:shrug:
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
23,495
Sussex by the Sea
Kinnock came across OK on that debacle of a show on C5 last evening.

He said he is a remainer but respects the vote and wants to come up with a solid and forward thinking exit deal. Unlike Jezza who just says 'No' at every opportunity, without offering anything constructive. Your days are numbered matey.
 


KZNSeagull

Well-known member
Nov 26, 2007
19,873
Wolsingham, County Durham
speaking of definition, Corbyn says the deal is worse than May's. how so, and what should be done differently isnt said. one thing consistent in this saga is politicians not telling anyone what they mean, sticking to vague terms to speak to multiple groups at once.

And that our politicians no longer make judgements in a considered way with all the facts and details in front of them. "We have a new deal" says Boris, "It's shit" says everyone else immediately. Marvellous. :rolleyes:
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,350
Seems that BJ is lobbying EU leaders not to offer any further extensions, thereby negating the Benn Act and presenting Parliament with a binary deal/no deal choice. Which is probably the only way to stop Parliament just banging on forevermore about what they don't want. Which is just about every flavour of Brexit imaginable. Time for everyone to move on.
 


Dick Swiveller

Well-known member
Sep 9, 2011
9,163
Farage? what is happening? :shootself
Are you new to this? Farage is interested in one thing only and that is Farage. If we get a deal then his reason to be ends. He can't milk the entity he proclaims to hate any longer and his shiny new party will be pointless. My guess is that he is desperate to end the run of never having been elected when only his name was the option to vote for. If a General Election doesn't have Brexit as the main issue then he can't go scoping for run down towns to stand in without being another pointless option on the ballot paper.
 


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