You mentioned the ECJ. That alone rather damages your entire nonsensical dribble of a post.
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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You mentioned the ECJ. That alone rather damages your entire nonsensical dribble of a post.
- Jul 10, 2003
- 25,994
I don't believe he said that he wanted any of that. But it's entirely possible that you will find out that's exactly what you voted for
Cue a load of whataboutism
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Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
It seems you talk a load of old toss,and don't know why you do it.And Nero fiddled while Rome burned down around him,much like Selmayr and his blind groupies ignoring the EU disaster coming.
Why do you post abuse? You must have the memory of a goldfish.
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As I said, argue the toss about the Euro if you like, that's not the same thing as the EU is it? Predictable that you should fall into whinging about the ECB.
So, this "massive increase" in populist anti-EU vote? Give over FFS. A change from 1% to 2% would be a massive increase (of 100% in fact), but it's still trivial. Put some numbers to your nonsense, in France, barely 30% are Eurosceptic. Sweden is another country where that anti-EU feeling is strong, but even then it's barely 30% there too.
I did see one article talking about 5 countries threatening to rock the EU boat and it was absolutely laughable. No surprise it was in the Daily Express. I'm sure it wasn't anything to do with trying to make it's gullible and right wing readers feeling better about voting leave. Oh no, not that at all.
Meanwhile, this is telling - across 27 member states, 67% of people believe the EU has benefited their country, with only 12% expressing the opposite view. Tell me again how those figures point to the EU dying:
https://www.politico.eu/article/europeans-love-the-eu-and-populists-too/
The EU dying! FFS. Clueless.
pastafarian
Well-known member
So i didnt mention the EFTA court after all
You would be a fool if you thought ECJ decisions have no influence.
The Efta court itself is still subject to and must follow the rulings of the ECJ, and increasingly so, to the annoyance of some in Norway themselves. The Efta court is there for harmonisation not divergence.
Coming from someone who believed the United Kingdom will have to cease trading with everyone everywhere on March 30th in the event of no deal because our WTO schedules will still be uncertified, I strongly suggest you stop relying on twitter for your brexit info.
On one hand we are being told the EU is becoming all powerful and they’re gonna create a super army etc but the same people are now telling us the EU is moribund.
I put it to them that they haven’t got the first clue what it is they think they are talking about.
I put it to them that they haven’t got the first clue what it is they think they are talking about.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Hardly abusive compared to you,old fish,but then you always talk a load of old toss (no swear words,no morons,or other abusive names,no farmyard or pervy references.Abusive,moi?)
I happily admit I call you names. I think you're a fool. if I'm banned for it, I'm banned for it. But I won't be told off by the likes of you who is one of the most abusive ***** on here.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Been to the pub lunchtime?Did you read through that article?If that's the best that an EU sponsored survey can produce,it's even worse than I thought.I note that you haven't given your reply on EU unemployment policies,or why you think massive debt is a good idea.No change there then.Perhaps I should ask you about the Equalities Commission report on Labour being a racist party instead?
If you think that in any way reflects what is written in your post,then you are a silly billy.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
More I missed it or was too busy. (I'm usually mean't to be doing something more productive when online) Apologies to anyone I don't reply to (with the exception of Clampy - ultimate troll WUM), multi tasking isn't my forte. Anyway back to your points, Johnson did want to and was going to stand but was knifed by Gove. Gove didn't recieve enough MP votes to get through to the final stage and Leadsom, the only Brexiteer left standing at the end, clearly didn't have enough support among the parliamentary party which any PM would need to get us through the process (see the problems May is having when she loses the support of many Tory MP's now).
Yes May dished out all the Brexity jobs to Leavers in the cabinet (which is majority remain) but how many of those leavers then resigned as she diverged from what she initially promised Lancaster house speech and commited to in the manifesto? The cabinet is split in numerous ways so it's obviously not nonsense to say having a PM and a cabinet all set on one course of action would be better.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Find me a post where I have referred to you as being thick as pig****,one of the most popular phrases on here by your ilk.
You repeatedly tell people they "spout a load of toss". That's not abusive? The reason I refer to you as being as thick as shit and the reason you don't refer to me as being thick as shit is because you are as thick as shit and I am not as thick as shit. See?
Righto, have a nice weekend. Layaz Playaz.
Hampden Park
Ex R.N.
- Oct 7, 2003
- 4,990
get a friggin room you two
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
1. If Leadsom had stayed the course and it gone down to the blue rinse set of the membership, she may have won and become PM
2. It was Rachel Sylvester's Times interview that did for her.
Personally I think in hindsight she wouldn't have done any worse than May. Do you remember after Grenfell when The Queen, as mother of the nation and daughter of the last Empress of India, visited the survivors, it was Leadsom there as self appointed deputy, showing us what we'd missed out on and referring to the absent PM as 'Ter-ray-zor' in her GP receptionist voice live on Sky News.
A masterful talent, wasted as leader of the house.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
So you think that if we only built half the car parks, half the customs posts in NI, commissioned half the IT systems and infrastructure and recruited half the staff, that may be enough to fool the EU into thinking we would go 'no deal' ?
Who knows, it could work. (As long as we don't award any of the contracts to European companies, employ any Europeans in any management roles and the EU isn't paying too much attention)
No, I think if we were at the stage we are now with no deal preparations say just six months into the negotiations it would be clear that the UK was serious about leaving without a deal if necessary which would have applied more pressure on the EU side.
In hindsight the pooh-pooh ploppy I did this morning wouldn't have done any worse than May
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
1.) Yes she might have won but my previous point about needing the backing of the Parlimentary party holds. See Corbyn for what happens to a party when you only really have the support of the membership.
2.) I think May made numerous commitments to the Brexiteers to secure their backing who then convinced Leadsom to withdraw also a lengthy leadership battle looked a tad indulgent while the country was in crisis.
I agree she probably couldn't have done any worse which considering Leadsom's obvious limitations is rather damning on May.
Lincoln Imp
Well-known member
- Feb 2, 2009
- 5,964
If you're going to have a shit morning then Grimsby is the place to have it. No one will notice. I went to a tile shop in the poor old place last year, just off the main street. Most of the shops were shuttered. It was ten on a Friday morning. When we got back in the car just three people were visible.
A pretty but very large girl pushing a pram which might have contained a baby (all I could see were newspapers) and two blokes.
The blokes were having a fight in the road. Drink was involved. There was little danger of them getting run over.
Prime Brexit territory you might say. Unbelievably, when two toffs from the home counties turned up in 2016 and and told them to vote for more of the same, over a quarter of the local population said 'Oh all right then' and did so.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
I take your first point, but once the dust had settled after June 24th, it wasn't a crisis. The were no time constraints and a time out caused by a summer leadership contest wasn't going to add fuel the flames particularly.
What we needed was a strong and stable, ready made leader as PM if possible though, a Thatcher Mark 2.0 and the problem was people thought we had one, including MP's in her own party who must think now - 'What the **** did I do?!' when they look back at endorsing Mrs May's tenure.
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