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  1. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    I'm fully on board with punitive sanctions against Israel for the atrocities it continues to unleash on Gaza - but it would be a huge stain on our nation's character if we for months turned a blind eye to the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocents, only to be finally prodded into reaction...
  2. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    At least someone has done well out of it all. ****s with inside intel, making millions in profit in the hours BEFORE the Hamas attacks...
  3. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Once they've managed to kill, or drive out, all of the humans in Gaza, then their statement will be technically correct.
  4. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    88 UN Aid workers killed since 07.10.23, in Israel's carefully targeted attacks on Hamas commanders. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/israel-hamas-war-is-deadliest-ever-for-un-aid-workers-with-at-least-88-killed/ar-AA1jtsVJ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ENTPSP&cvid=77c167408622475e9f87204fcab9ba89&ei=44
  5. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    More anti-semites calling for a ceasefire. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/ceasefire-now-australian-jewish-group-breaks-ranks-with-vigils-for-peace/ar-AA1jcM5w?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c35f9ae0f2a349be942909256888e7a3&ei=30
  6. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Agree with almost all of this. I think there is one important caveat though, which is that contributions here from various posters, make it clear that people's definition of who are to be considered 'innocent Palestinians' vary significantly. At one end of the scale, the innocents are every...
  7. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    It obviously isn't designed to directly 'help' anyone. Stop Oil protesters throwing orange powder over a tennis court, do not think that direct act is going to stop the Maldives sinking into the ocean. Surely like any other direct protest, it is just designed to grab headlines and thus raise...
  8. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    I think that's completely fair enough. I don't think anybody on here has argued otherwise (not that I have seen, anyway). I'm in the same boat actually - the heinous attacks were utterly sickening, and I can't imagine what it must have been like to experience such events - or even to live, and...
  9. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Its all getting completely ridiculous now - that any legitimate questioning of Israel's actions is effectively disallowed. In the past 48 hours, both our government and opposition have effectively sacked and expelled prominent MPs for suggesting that people stop killing each other. It's...
  10. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    There's quite a bit to unpack here. Israel has slaughtered a couple of thousand children in the last couple of weeks, with their indiscriminate bombing. Were they also 'difficult to distinguish from Hamas soldiers'? When you are indiscriminately raining munitions down on a hemmed in population...
  11. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    I think you have got ‘Palestine’, ‘Gaza’ and ‘Hamas’ a little confused, tbh. Where do you think ‘Palestine’ is, exactly? Which people do you think Hamas govern? Does your suggestion of ‘leaving Palestine to fend for itself’ include removing the 750,000 Israeli settlers from the West Bank?
  12. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    I can think of a few, sadly.
  13. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    No, sorry - that is absolutely not what you wrote at all. You wrote that it was 'weird' that they were included in the number of Palestinian lives lost in the 'war' (your inverted commas - not sure why they are there):
  14. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Oh I see. So this isn't about the senseless loss of thousands of young lives then? Its only about point scoring.
  15. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Would you like to explain carefully why those innocent people should somehow NOT be 'included in the numbers lost in the war'? Why did those presumably blameless people not 'count'?
  16. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    The Swedish no-go areas is a lie. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sweden-crime-no-go-zone-police/
  17. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Can people leave the childish name calling, for another time and thread, please.
  18. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    That is clearly what you would LIKE to believe, but no - ‘we’ absolutely can not be ‘sure’ of that at all. Given the evidence of the last few days - never mind the last few decades - that is at best, a very naive statement. The time has come for the apologists of Israel’s actions to drop the...
  19. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    <deleted> Seriously can’t be arsed.
  20. hans kraay fan club

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Bollocks. the bloke has drawn multiple cartoons per WEEK, for FORTY YEARS. You can't produce THOUSANDS of satirical cartoons, without some folk rightly or wrongly interpreting them as offensive.
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