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I wish he'd be clearer though. I THINK he feels Broad should have walked.

It was more that having embarrassed you in highlighting the hypocrisy in your argument over the whole Broad thing, that I'd make the peace by making a little joke about snooker. :whiteflag:

Snooker is just a pub game. Why would anyone bother cheating anyway? :whistle:

That's where I am too. Spot on.

We'll never know, unless he tells us. But 30 years of playing the game (with tonnes of experience of nicking the ball to the keeper!) tells me he knew. Correct. that's his right, if that's how they choose to play the game.

Granted, not always with bat-pad. But a nick in the syle of Haddin's, with the bat miles away from the body, you know. Haddin knew.

Its no problem. Of course he knew he hit it. that's not the argument. Do you PLAY cricket Tooting? If you edge a ball, even very faintly, then you know. You feel it through your hands. Brad Haddin knew he had edged it yesterday, every bit as much as Broad knew he'd hit his on Friday. The only...

I'm making nothing up - just trying to clarify your argument, that's all. As I say, Bairstow edged and walked, without waiting for a decision. Broad did the same (2nd time round). On TEN other occassions a batsman edged a ball to the keeper, and stood and waited for the umpire to give him out...

So just to be clear here - your view is that not walking when you know you've edged it is okay, so long as its not obvious?

12 times in this Test match, batsmen edged catches to the wicket-keeper. On TEN of those occasions the batsmen waited for the umpire's decision. The only two who walked without waiting, were Bairstow, and STUART BROAD.

Spot on.

Why are you SO vehement that Stuart Broad has 'cheated' and none of the others who are guilty of EXACTLY the same thing, in this very same test match? Why is Brad Haddin spared your ire, for example? Please don't say its because one edge was 'more obvious' than the other. That would be a daft...

Was it Bairstow's 'Di Canio moment' then? He walked without being given out, and it will be forgotten about, this time tomorrow. It really is a shame that this is how things are, but in the context of high stakes professional sport, Broad is absolutely entitled to leave it to the umpire to...