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to the people who consider Mandela, and the ANC as 'terrorists'...if you were a black man/woman in South Africa, during the white dictatorship, how would you have addressed the issue, bearing in mind that the ANC tried peaceful protest, and negotiation for over 50 years?

South Africa?... and when was that border drawn up, and who by?...which is why I specifically said...Southern Africa. I actually doubt if you consider Mandela a 'terrorist' Bushy, so no need to get all digital.

Yeah, those Zulu, Xhosa, Venda and the Ndebele tribes have only been in Southern Africa for the last 1000 years..fecking immigrants.

Im weak... :) I smoke a lot of grass.. and prefer to smoke many during the evening, rather than one big knock-out blow... .. Seriously, at the moment, im very satisfied with just cutting down on the cigs...will see where it goes..

TopBanana... what are the actions of Mandela that has offended you so much?

I spent the morning weaving some sandels out of a pot of bio yoghurt

well..at the moment...the E-Cig has helped me cut down..... takes away that immediate craving...so im fairly pleased with that...I doubt if ill give up completely as I smoke a lot of joints... but the cigs have defiintely cut down thanks to the nasty tasting thing :-)

No, apparently, despite trying non violence for over 50 years...The ANC were wrong to rise up against a racist, white, minority dictatorship, that routinely committed atrocities against them. Ingrates.

You seem a bit more focused on the white population pp... there are many parties in South Africa, represented in parliament... White population of S.A is less than 10%, of course any white party, representing white people, considering the countries history is not going to have any power...

Sydney...yeah, like we have been saying...it will take generations....Natal was a battleground for Inkatha and ANC... so hardly surprising. Porkpie.. even the Afrikaaners have representation in parliament...a lot more than black people ever recieved during the apartheid govts.

It happens in all new, and emerging countries though pork pie...surely you have noticed it in other places?.. it will take time...generations...and western nations, have played a role in some areas of Africa to the continents detriiment, but good for western oil, gold, diamond, mineral...

Biased?.. I think EVERYBODY should be biased against a racist, dictatorship...you clearly dont... you forgot again to tell me what the ANC govt has done to upset you.

My 'research' comes from living with a South African family for 20 years.. my partner being the founding chairperson of Brighton Anti Apartheid.... You forgot to mention what the current ANC government has done to upset you so much, in comparison with other newly emerged countries...

Yeah...youre right... the abomination that was apartheid South Africa was all black peoples fault.. So, what has the ANC government done to upset you so much, in comparison to other governments around the world...not just African.....and which governments are unknown to corruption? Basing your...

I think they learned plenty from the Afrikaans govt.....

Mrs?..haha..yeah ok... .. The leaders of SA have been a product of a racist regime...you reap what you sew...it will take generations to recover

Probably the same outcome that would have occurred during the miners strike during the Thatcher years had our police been armed.... Not sure what thats got to do with anything really, theres been a lot worse occuring around the world with new countries that have emerged...at least a savage...

ANC tried the non-violent route for 50 years, and got nowhere... the 'terrorist' attacks that landed Mandela in jail was knocking down some power-lines.

How else was the population of South Africa able to fight the terrorist, apartheid, white dictatorship, that routinely terrrorised the majority population? Talking about 'terrorism' against that abhorance of a 'State' is laughable.