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  1. Yoda

    Full national lockdown (not education) 4/11 - 1/12 possible

    The 100k per day was Imperial College London. They were estimating that there were 96k new infections per day for England alone last week, based on data from 3 weeks prior. Part of this report was used by SAGE. This was also not taking into account the new tiered measures that had just been put...
  2. Yoda

    Full national lockdown (not education) 4/11 - 1/12 possible

    Good to see the BBC ahead of the game. Those figures were debunked by many other scientists over the weekend, even some peoples favourite, Dr John Campbell found them dubious on one of his updates on YouTube. Even I found it a bit strange at the time as Valentine showed a nice graph with R...
  3. Yoda

    Full national lockdown (not education) 4/11 - 1/12 possible

    Yep! They've completely overlooked Parent A (before symptomatic), passing the virus onto Child A, going off to school and passing the virus onto Child B, C, D, E, and no doubt F, G & H. They all go home and pass it onto their family. :facepalm: Everyone will be coming out into tier 3.
  4. Yoda

    Full national lockdown (not education) 4/11 - 1/12 possible

    Unless they are doing this in full knowledge that at least one of the vaccines will be ready for distribution by the beginning of December you full know what will happen come the 2nd of December when we come out of this lockdown. Everybody will stampede the shops in a rush to get ready for...
  5. Yoda

    Full national lockdown (not education) 4/11 - 1/12 possible

    Did you watch Dr Campbells video? The 20% is the estimated asymptomatic cases. For him to be sceptical about the ReACT data says a lot. And the Zoe app isn't just people reporting a "cough". If you report you are unwell with any symptoms, you are offered a home test swab kit that you send back...
  6. Yoda

    Full national lockdown (not education) 4/11 - 1/12 possible

    It's not, though. The week of the study, they were saying new incidents in ENGLAND were 96,000 per day. (Kings/Zoe 43,000 for the UK). ONS data was 52,000 for the UK. Yes, Kings/Zoe is based on people reporting symptoms so add on 20%, but that is still closer than Sage/ReACT. Don't believe me...
  7. Yoda

    Full national lockdown (not education) 4/11 - 1/12 possible

    But when the two are compare to what has actually happened since both reports, the Kings/Zoe report is closest to reality.
  8. Yoda

    Full national lockdown (not education) 4/11 - 1/12 possible

    The one thing I do not get with this, is that this is leaked in a week where appears the number of new cases are plateauing and the R estimate has fallen to 1.1. <-- This data is from King's College combined with the Zoe app. They have the largest and most up to date data set being used. Lets...
  9. Yoda

    Full national lockdown (not education) 4/11 - 1/12 possible

    Apart from her getting Covid, that is an amazing good story to hear on here, both that she has seen the lumps disappear and that she was treated at the Royal Marden for Covid making the use of the steroids to be known as a way of helping the very sick fight it. I would say I wouldn't be so sure...
  10. Yoda

    Full national lockdown (not education) 4/11 - 1/12 possible

    Haha! Yes, I was tired and not sure why I used consecutive days last night when I posted that, but it does still give a picture of how quickly the virus spreads IF the R was that high. The role of people who remain truly asymptomatic does raise a question again that I asked in April/May. Has...
  11. Yoda

    Full national lockdown (not education) 4/11 - 1/12 possible

    If that were the case it would've ripped the the entire student population in a week from one single case at each university, and that's based on the largest university in the country, University College London (41,180 total students) Day 1. 1 case Day 2. 6 new cases Day 3. 36 new cases Day 4...
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