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I originally posted a sarcastic comment, but have seen that your reference is to the text in the article. If you drill down to 'details' you'll see that 'voted very strongly against' means voted against in several votes on the issue.

History shows that, at times of economic crisis, there is often movement in politics away from the centre. Some move to the left, some to the right. There has been evidence of this in the UK with large increases in votes for UKIP on the right and the Greens and SNP on the left. Labour have...

The constituency link has previously been used as an argument against PR, but I think it ignores those of us in constituencies that don't feel they have representation under the existing system. I have always had a Tory or Lib Dem MP and, should the need arise, wouldn't feel comfortable...

The one denial of this fact on this thread has come from a person who doesn't vote Labour. Congratulations for utterly destroying the position not being put forward by your vociferous, but imaginary opponents.

True. Though, as Sami Hyppia's time in charge seems to have proven to us: Statistics = Smoke + Mirrors

As explained, I wasn't arguing politics, or totals, only correcting the fault in the logical conclusion. If some As are Bs and all Bs are Cs it does not necessarily follow that all As are Cs.

The statement of how many people didn't vote Labour is correct, but wasn't in question What was in question was your deductive reasoning in assuming that everybody who didn't vote Labour was either happy, or didn't care. This could not be reasoned. I believe it contains a syllogistic fallacy.

False logic which only works if you assume that nobody who voted for another party would not have preferred a Labour government to a tory one. The statements of Nicola Sturgeon, Leanne Wood and Natalie Bennett prove this to be a false assumption.

I think that the control held by the party system is another thing that has put people off politics. A pledge to remove whips and to allow party members to say what they think instead of keeping on message could be a game changer. The success of UKIP and Johnson's mayoral campaigns have both...

Yeah, Bloody Xenos, coming over 'ere taking our jobs.

That seems very applicable to supporting The Albion. Maybe it should be a banner headline on NSC giving pause to anyone starting a thread after a defeat.

Off the point, but do you see the irony in what you have written? Its essentially: 'I don't like racists; racists and South Africans.'

I think you are right. The next Labour leader has to come out strongly and seriously in favour of PR and other reforms of our politics. The strongest message to come from the last two governments has been the public's disillusion with politics and politicians. If any leader is to re-engage...

You appear surprised at what maths would suggest would be the expected outcome. Mathematically, the country is divided on a roughly 50/50 split between those who want to go more right (Con, UKIP, DUP) and those who want to go more left (Lab, LD, SNP, PC, SDLP, Green). The result of the...