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I'm now somewhat fearful for our game. Of the games I've watched the referees have been decent and var has been used efficiently - that ain't gonna last and we're playing Spurs.

He didn't have to sign an extension.

We've got 11 - well that's a start.

For those of you depressed by the goal. This should cheer you up.

Much like tomorrow's 'feast of football' I can make a case to be happy irrespective of the final score. Utd winning is never ideal but Martinez and Villa losing is always pleasing.

That question was answered earlier in this thread.

Fark me this is hilarious.

Which isn't an issue as he didn't play the ball.

Everyone admits the decision making in that Villa game was shite. Although the Liverpool decision tonight was very different, as the action was considerably more condensed. The footage from behind the goal is even more damning.

In the unlikely event Liverpool don't win, Klipperty now has a narrative other than 'my team let us all down tonight'.

He didn't see it the first time, let alone again.

Luton - with my laughing at palace head on.

In his post match Smug will now have to deflect everything away from himself. I'd be amazed if he mentions the ref, what with him having a good game, but not completely surprised if he crops up. What would amaze me is if the reporter replies "you f##kin what, he did everything he could to help...

Oh I absolutely hate it. It's just for me referee and var aren't to blame for 99% of all footballs on field issues. People no longer care about what they've seen they just want to blame the ref, sometimes even before the game has started, and I've had enough of that.

Does Smug's programme notes make him a journalist? Just wondering.

But this decision has nothing to do with VAR. The check was minimal just to make sure there was a touch. My problem, pretty much since the Turkish ref got chinned, is why is everything the fault of the ref and VAR? As per the instant reactions on here.

VAR is there to make sure The Horsepuncher was nibbled with the faintest of touches. 'We' weren't happy with the ref being fallible. Everything said in the exchange was bollox, but that's just where we are at. Slo-mo, 'expert' analysis, player validation - all crap. But in order to feed the...

He was behind him right on his heels 'nibbling' at him. They can't overrule it just because we all hate the team. Anyway we can now watch it over and over again in super slo-mo. A process which will provide no conclusion and only validate whatever opinion was originally held.

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No VAR wasn't. VAR was supposed to intervene on clear and obvious errors. Forest played made a stupid challenge. The horsepuncher used that to his advantage. The ref gives the right decision as he saw it. VAR doesn't have enough to overturn. This decision isn't a referee problem. Neither is...