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(whispering) Bladders I think you've misplaced your sense of humour. Have you looked between the cushions on the sofa?

Or if they go all martial arts in the ring, bow first, then kick him in the head.

Being a postie it's tough to get a coherent argument out of me at 11am, 11pm just forget it. :lol:

If they are a sprinter they need the millisecond timing of an F1 driver to position themselves for the victory, while 'just' pedaling at 40mph. If they are a climber they need to be able to judge their physical effort precisely against the other riders and the road. All cyclists need to be able...

You are right, everybody can do it. It's not like kicking a ball or hitting it with a bat, that's virtually impossible for us mere mortals.

That is very true. The summer days used to fly by, out on your bike, for 120 to 150 miles,. Cycling along for 5 and a half hours. It was always nice to either ride up and over 5 Alps, or perhaps finish with a 45mph sprint, for the last 3 miles. It was so easy I'd get up and do it all again the...

No it's the points competition, traditionally fought over by sprinters. Sagan is a better all round rider, so he can pick up points, throughout the whole tour. Cav is THE sprinter, he's a flat track bully, and the best in the world. Without Sagan Cav would win the points competition, a la The...

Absolutely. But that won't hold much water in this discussion in the unlikely event of us getting tonked 5-0, this summer.

Once again Wiggins is no longer in the discussion. O'Sullivan should be, but only playing for 2 weeks a year has to hamper things. Bale, no. You'd like to think/hope at least 1 cricketer will be top of the list come September.

No he doesn't, you couldn't be more wrong.

You guys do know Wiggo has been pretty poor since last July, don't you. In 2 weeks time Chris Froome should have taken BW's tour title. In the meantime Cav has just gone to joint third (I think) in the list of all time Tour de France stage winners.

That we are.

Cav ripped Le Tour a new one today. Murray reached the semi finals. I think he still has a little way to go.