good point. if holland make it i reckon they could have a reasonably good campaign. they did well at euro 2004, and appear to be over their penalty jinx
didn't brazil stuggle to beat croatia recently?
and the fact that denmark won their group and qualified ahead of france means that they were obviously not that bad
germany were not that good a side then - hell, less than a year before even we beat them 5-1. they also failed to beat wales
as for beating england, it was a fluke goal that should never have gone in. brazil also very nearly failed to qualify for the tournamemt
however, in the coming world cup...