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Makes sense. Unless Garvan does indeed up his workrate, he'll not amount to more than a squad player for most sides in this league. It is amazing that I can come on here initially to give an honest assessment of Garvan and I let myself get sidetracked and squabble! It's good to have Brighton...

"f*** off"! That's more like it... Shot at birth is not contradictory BTW - anyway it seems this has narked you more than it needed to. The original point is that I found the ineptness of the insult funny. Nevermind.

The most likely outcome is he (Garvan) was hoping to be considered a starter. Perhaps he equated Brighton's interest to an assurance that he'd get more game time than he gets here. Perhaps if Gus & co could not offer him that he decided that what is the point in moving? That seems the most...

I'll refer you to post #947 (at a quick glance) in which it was claimed a 'Nigel' posted crap on your message board, and then continued to infer that there probably isn't enough room in his caravan to lie down. Yes - lot's of middle-class sub-urban Surrey Palace fans (why Millwall call us...

I really cannot work out what is funnier. The back-tracking of Albion fans on the potential transfer of Owen Garvan being even more quick and obvious than the back-tracking of the Palace fans; or the fact that in this thread we have been referred to as both 'Nigels' & 'Pikey caravan dwellers'...

Despite a few fans posturing, most of us realise our weaknesses and are glad to see that the team is strengthening over the summer. We ceratinly are no better than a 12th-15th placed side at present, but we do have some players of real quality in the team. I think any comments about our team...

You had good results against Pompey and Watford - so did we under Burley's style of passing football, but that still didn't stop us being in the bottom 6 nearly all season. The arrogance from you guys is funny, understandable after a league winning season, but funny nonetheless. If you read my...

SLP reports no official bid for Clyne - and to be honest, less than £4m should be met with a polite, but firm 'F*ck Off!' Back on topic - I do not doubt that Gus has you guys playing some good football, and has shown himself to be a very good manager. I urge you to consider though that pretty...

Owen Garvan has split opinion at Palace as much as Burley did. I, personally, thought of him as a good squad player - but never made a starting place his own. At times he produced some magic (a few stunning goals and some great passes) but is too similar a player to Ambrose in our team without...

Yeah - the fixtures are tough next year. Obviously there is no way of knowing how it will shape up at the beginning of the season, but I'd expect there to be points readily available from Peterboro, Barnsley, Donny, Cardiff, Hull, Millwall (and of course Brighton ;-) ) Far too early to...

That link says nothing other than what our board have said since they took over a year ago. No direct links to Darren wanting away, or a bid coming in for him. Currently = no story. And as I said, if any of the top players do go I's expect to see a couple million coming back the other way at least.

The point I am making is that the bookies have been far too quick to accurately predict the upcoming season. Predictably they've gone for the three that came down to go straight up and the likes of Reading and Cardiff there or thereabouts. Reading, I think, is fair enough, but Cardiff have had...

If we can keep hold of these three (which I expect we will) then I think we can hope for an improved season. Zaha is along the same lines as Clyne (in terms of potential and quality) just coming up 2 years behind. Excellent skill and ability - just a little naive in his decision making...

Well if the bookies are so accurate why don't we not bother playing the season at all? There is a common myth that bookies are usually spot on, well they are more often wrong than right. The only thing they correctly predicted about the championship last year was QPR. They thought 'boro were...

No honest Palace fan is proud of the last 15 years financial mismanagement. It signified another example of the money in football that typifies what has gone wrong in the beautiful game. We are now much happier with our current set up - but certainly acknowledge the wrong-doings of the past. I...

Seriously enjoy your new ground. I understand why that is exciting. You should just hope that your football can match it, because otherwise it may be nothing more than the equivalent of having an expensive bag to pick up dogshit with.

Indeed, but like with every other topic, a conversation about Garvan ends up with you lot going mental about your ground.

The funny thing is that you are all getting excited about your big stadium move (well over £100m) that currently has a 23k capacity. Even if the upgrades do happen (pushing the price even further) it'll get you 30k. Decent (and only DECENT) capacity. That'll be your home for the next 60-odd...

I honestly wouldn't believe our Dougie when he talks to the press. He also said that we are not in for Murray if you recall 2 weeks before he signed. Our board came onto the BBS two days ago informing us first-hand that there really is no need to sell (although of course every player will have...

Strange one this. An honest Palace perspective here. Garvan, on his day can be a very tidy player. Good left foot with an excellent range of passing. He tends to go missing in games, and that would be his biggest weakness. There is no real defensive side to his game, and so needs support in...