Damn. You win best style. That's always been the trouble with the anti lobby - we overthink and overword things and forget that succinct can be beautiful.
Aww. It makes me sad seeing this thread going into multiple pages. You can't argue with the hunt lot, they're a maddening mix of thick, angry and mental. Even that in itself is annoying, because it hurts to feel so patronising about people. Perhaps I shouldn't take it to heart.